# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1165 "2025-01-04T17:31:00Z")

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Evidently this new friend of ours has spent approximately zero time on the wider internet in the last 2 years since that name became his near-universal moniker.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1166 "2025-01-04T18:26:35Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Evidently this new friend of ours

If this is a new poster I will eat my hat.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1167 "2025-01-04T18:59:22Z")

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And when did that phrase come to be?🎩

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1169 "2025-01-04T19:36:33Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1012928/15):
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> the man is terrible at posting on websites and should not be indulged

Hmm, are you also Elon?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1170 "2025-01-04T20:11:58Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> “Not Elon Musk, definitely not” guy doesn’t understand Dune at all:

If he got as far as God Emperor, I assume his takeaway was “being God Emperor is awesome”.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1171 "2025-01-04T20:18:21Z")

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OMG- nothing would make me happier than if Elon made a fake account here to defend himself.

Mods, if that happens please, please, please don’t ban him.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1172 "2025-01-04T20:53:34Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1012928/11):
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> This is very very funny, either Elon or someone sad trying to pretend to not be him

Oh, it’s definitely him. Connor is a freaking genius at handing “Adrian” rope to hang himself with. Dittmann is supposedly a 20-something into 4chan and Reddit, yet doesn’t appear to be aware of basic references those fora use. Connor also constantly drops little jabs that are designed to infuriate Elon but wouldn’t faze a real Adrian, knowing that Musk couldn’t let on without giving the game away. It’s masterful stuff.

In other news, Musk continues to rail about the (alleged but not actual) failure of Keir Starmer to do anything about child sexual abuse, while Xitter continues to be a main conduit for publicly available child porn content.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1173 "2025-01-04T21:03:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Musk continues to rail about the (alleged but not actual) failure of Keir Starmer to do anything about child sexual abuse, while Xitter continues to be a main conduit for publicly available child porn content.

The best real world defense is a strong fantasy offense.

The best fantasy defense is, of course, the Chewbacca defense. 😉

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1174 "2025-01-04T23:56:41Z")

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[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgZfzR9XMAAWpDi.png) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgZfzR9XMAAWpDi.png)

This is just getting pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1175 "2025-01-05T00:15:29Z")

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Possibly the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1177 "2025-01-05T02:44:58Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1012928/16):
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> Musk seems so needy for approval and has such a desire to be percieved as cool but is just so pathetic.

He’s living breathing proof that money can’t buy happiness.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1178 "2025-01-05T02:48:27Z")

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Meanwhile, in Santa Monica, the CEO of an AI company (ironically) almost got turned into a pancake after his Tesla drove itself onto train tracks surrounded by a concrete barrier and into the path of an oncoming Metro train, forcing him to run a red light to save his life.

[https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/tesla-fsd-jesse-lyu-train-20014242.php](https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/tesla-fsd-jesse-lyu-train-20014242.php)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1179 "2025-01-05T05:58:06Z")

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(slaps knees) Welp

> <https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1875758660154163254>

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1180 "2025-01-05T17:02:32Z")

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OK, I give up, I can no longer tell what’s real on Xitter and what isn’t. Is it for real?

In other news, a (gasp!) falling out. It appears that Nigel Farrage isn’t far enough right for Musk.

> **[Elon Musk calls for Nigel Farage to be replaced as Reform UK leader](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70ep8lp4jjo)**
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> Nigel Farage claims Musk's call is due to a disagreement support for far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

j

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1181 "2025-01-05T17:11:43Z")

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It’s a real tweet, it’s not clear to me whether this is a confession, a mock confession that Elon expects people to take as a joke, or trolling to sow confusion about what’s real.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1182 "2025-01-05T17:16:04Z")

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This is a lot like what happens when a corporate merger occurs and the new management team comes in.

Musk doesn’t really care about Farage as such. But Musk knows Farage doesn’t owe Musk anything. So Musk’s goal is to push Farage out, install a Musk toady in his place, and thereby be able to control that toady going forward. And thereby enable Musk to control ~~UKIP~~ Reform UK himself.

We can expect to see trump doing that same move all up and down the upper layers of the federal bureaucracy. What _really_ matters is that the newly installed Director of ABC department know and understand that everything good and wonderful that just came his (95+% probability for “his”) way was a gift from trump. A conditional gift that can be taken away on a whim and _will_ be taken away at the first hint of disobedience.

Competence does not matter. Being willing to sell their soul to The Big Cheese does. Every one of those small fry bureaucrats whose new job level suddenly entitles them to a chauffeured limousine to work, or a chance to graft or secret payments or … will very clearly know which side of their bread has the butter and who can grab it from their hands.

This is all standard totalitarian playbook stuff.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1183 "2025-01-05T20:30:09Z")

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Interesting analysis - I hope you’re right. Farage is all about Farage - before it was Reform it was UKIP; before it was UKIP… I can’t remember. If Musk were to force Farage out, then there would just be another incarnation of the Farage party under a new name; but at least the far right would be more cluttered and (hopefully) the far right vote more split.

Sounds like a plan.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1184 "2025-01-06T00:04:30Z")

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Musk asks on X: “What is a pharmacy benefit manager?”

> Well, Elon, a pharmacy benefit manager is a company that handles negotiations with pharma companies on behalf of health insurers. Three big ones control almost the entire market and they supposedly bring down the cost of drugs through their collective buying power.

> But they’re also in the business of being maximally profitable, which doesn’t always match up with saving consumers money. After years of PBM abuses being reported, in 2024 Congress was [finally ready to do something:](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/23/lawmakers-unveil-pbm-reform-bill-amid-rising-drug-costs.html)

> Unfortunately, the bill failed to pass. You, Elon, should know this since you were the one who killed it. It was part of last month’s Continuing Resolution that you mounted a jihad against, demanding that the CR should maintain current funding and absolutely nothing else.¹ This meant ditching PBM reform because it was 500 pages long and you insisted that page count was the proper metric for judging the bill.

Kakistocracy.

> **[Elon Musk killed PBM reform without knowing what a PBM is - Kevin Drum](https://jabberwocking.com/elon-musk-killed-pbm-reform-without-knowing-what-a-pbm-is/)**
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> I was puttering around on something else when I ran across this: What is a “pharmacy benefit manager”? https://t.co/wQSRCreBDK — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 31, 2024 Well, Elon, a pharmacy benefit manager is a company that handles negotiations...

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1185 "2025-01-06T00:13:05Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Interesting analysis - I hope you’re right. Farage is all about Farage - before it was Reform it was UKIP; before it was UKIP… I can’t remember.

Before UKIP the dominant far-right party was the BNP, led by Nick Griffin. Farage wasn’t involved in that though, AFAIK. He’s been UKIP since the early ‘90s.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1186 "2025-01-06T08:15:36Z")

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He’s now running a poll to ask if America should invade the UK.

> <https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1876174862747930717>

He needs an intervention.

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