# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1502 "2025-01-25T09:18:34Z")

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> **[Police investigate Musk salute projected on Tesla factory – DW – 01/24/2025](https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-investigate-musk-salute-projected-on-tesla-factory/a-71403737)**
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> The British campaign group "Led By Donkeys" has claimed responsibility for the stunt that authorities say may have breached German laws on the use of symbols linked to illegal organizations.

It’s illegal to show the “Roman salute” in Germany with Nazi intentions.

This puts Musk in an interesting bind.

He can throw German law enforcement at the protesters who projected this on his factory — but he’d have to admit that it’s a Nazi salute.

Or he can continue to deny that it’s a Nazi salute, and if the authorities accept his assertion, that means there’s no crime and the protesters can continue their stunt.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1503 "2025-01-25T09:30:57Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s stagnant because you’re a piece of shit who killed it through a combination of incompetence and malignancy.

Well, this probably didn’t help:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RK91Ji6GCZ8/maxresdefault.jpg "Musk tells boycotting advertisers to ‘go f--- yourself’") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK91Ji6GCZ8)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1504 "2025-01-25T13:15:19Z")

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Nope.

We need to vote with our feet/wallet.  
Every Tesla sold is money in Elons pocket.  
People buying Teslas are supporting a openly white supremacist Nazi. Don’t let them/him get away with it.

Get a nice Kia, get something Chinese. Hell, get a Volkswagen. Nobody there comes out of the boardroom to get on a stage to make Nazi salutes.

We need to make supporting Trump more expensive than the huge tax cuts they already got. (Trump skipped out of an international deal to tax all income @10%: not a bad ROI for giving the short fingered vulgarian a million for his “inauguration”).

It is very important to remember that these people only have as much money as we, the collective, allow them to have.  
As long as Elon is tweeting dumb shit about submarines I don’t mind my neighbor driving a Tesla. With the shit Elon pulled now I’ve asked him when he’s giving it back. He’s not going to give it back, but his next car won’t be a Tesla even if he gets it for free.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1505 "2025-01-25T20:52:14Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> It is very important to remember that these people only have as much money as we, the collective, allow them to have.

Certainly true as far as new income is concerned–and an important political tool, should we but wield it.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> This puts Musk in an interesting bind.
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> He can throw German law enforcement at the protesters who projected this on his factory — but he’d have to admit that it’s a Nazi salute.
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> Or he can continue to deny that it’s a Nazi salute, and if the authorities accept his assertion, that means there’s no crime and the protesters can continue their stunt.

This is beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1506 "2025-01-25T21:27:18Z")

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Trump’s chief of staff says no White House office for Elmo after all.

> **['And so it begins': Onlookers pounce as Trump reportedly 'kicks Elon out' of...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-kicked-elon-out-wiles/)**
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> The richest man in the world is reportedly being "frozen out" of the West Wing, and onlookers had a range of responses.
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> The British newspaper the Sunday Times recently reported that President Donald Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles, "has denied...

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> It is very important to remember that these people only have as much money as we, the collective, allow them to have.  
> As long as Elon is tweeting dumb shit about submarines I don’t mind my neighbor driving a Tesla. With the shit Elon pulled now I’ve asked him when he’s giving it back. He’s not going to give it back, but his next car won’t be a Tesla even if he gets it for free.

Remember, that also means buying Teslas used from rental car companies, who are trying to off-load them from their inventory as fast as humanly possible.

Elmo makes money selling the repairs & the replacement parts too.

Lets see what we can do about dropping their resale value to zero.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1508 "2025-01-25T21:48:34Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> We need to vote with our feet/wallet.  
> Every Tesla sold is money in Elons pocket.  
> People buying Teslas are supporting a openly white supremacist Nazi. Don’t let them/him get away with it.

While I am in total agreement with the sentiment, the reality is that Elon’s wealth doesn’t come from the revenues of Tesla, SpaceX, or his other companies but instead from the exaggerated market speculation that has inflated the market cap to orders of magnitude more than the profits these companies could actually yield in decades of operation, and furthermore has become completely decoupled from the performance of the company (particularly in the case of TSLA). Buy.a Tesla or no, it isn’t actually going to affect his wealth one bit. Ditto for Bezos (although I have divested myself of both Amazon Prime and _Washington Post_ subscriptions, mostly just to salve my conscience) and basically anyone whose wealth is mostly defined by stock holdings.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump’s chief of staff says no White House office for Elmo after all.

No, he has an office across the street in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. \<sarcasm\>I’m sure that is a real blow to Elon\</sarcasm\> who, frankly, isn’t going to be spending any time in a cramped and crummy federal office building using a hobbled government-issued computer and drinking shitty coffee from a five year old Keurig maker like the other White House proles. He’ll be using his purse strings and social media platform to bully lawmakers into supporting whatever he wants while still being Trump’s “Best Buddy” up until the point that the ever-expanding balloons of their narcissistic egos will no longer permit them to share the same Zip code, and then we’ll see what happens when unstoppable fiscal wealth meets an immovable bloated populist.

Stranger

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> He’ll be using his purse strings and social media platform to bully lawmakers into supporting whatever he wants while still being Trump’s “Best Buddy”

I’m pretty sure that honeymoon is over. The “President Musk” comments have predictably gotten under Trump’s skin and he’s deliberately sidelining him, as seen by his announcing an AI initiative with Altman.

Elmo is about to learn what undying loyalty to Trump gets you in return - absolutely nothing.

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> **[https://i.redd.it/2cn97rxo77fe1.jpeg](https://i.redd.it/2cn97rxo77fe1.jpeg)**

[![](https://i.imgflip.com/9hye52.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/9hye52.jpg)

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1511 "2025-01-26T08:58:05Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Elon’s wealth doesn’t come from the revenues of Tesla, SpaceX, or his other companies but instead from the exaggerated market speculation

Correct.

That’s why making Tesla cars a laughing stock meme will drop Tesla stock down to pennies so quickly.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1512 "2025-01-26T09:13:09Z")

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Tesla, the producer of swasticars and deploreans, has dropped 30% of its market cap.

Elmo seen running around with bathroom sinks.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1513 "2025-01-26T12:45:40Z")

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I mean, we were mocking Tesla here less than a year ago when the stock fell to $142, and now it’ s at $407. Swastika Elmo is doing fine, at least financially.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1514 "2025-01-26T13:10:15Z")

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Of course Musk’s wealth being tied to over inflated stock prices does make him vulnerable to Trump. If Trump announced that he was directing the government to investigate Tesla and SpaceX and that there might be serious consequences the stocks will crater.

And presumably the wereweasel Theil knows this and has Vance prepped to whisper into Trump’s ear.

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Elmo starts lecturing the people of Italy about the evils of race-mixing and the other people on the stage start rearranging the furniture so they can get as far away from him as possible, video in the tweet;

> **[The Serfs (@theserfstv.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/theserfstv.bsky.social/post/3lgoiiyl2o22k)**
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> Elon Musk: "race mixing is bad. Italy for Italians!" 
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> \*woman next to him moves as far away as possible\*

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According to several of the comments on that thread, that was an event basically for the Italian far right/fascists (“Bentornato Orgoglio Italiano” means “Welcome back Italian pride”), so it’s doubtful they were trying to distance themselves from his views.

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Maybe it was the stench coming off him?

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> [@duality72](#):
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> it’s doubtful they were trying to distance themselves from his views

Yeah, it looked more like her chair was uncomfortably scrunched behind his and the other guy was making room for her to space out a bit.

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Photo from the AfD rally in Germany a couple days ago. Elon got photobombed by a flag and it’s so appropriate. The menacing colors of the other flags just add to the atmosphere.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/3IDn91d.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/3IDn91d.jpg)

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I’m just curious, is this the only thread discussing the salute thing? Because I couldn’t find one in politics or great debates and assumed it was the sort of thing that would get it’s own topic

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🅴🅻:o2:🅽 🅰🅽🅳 🆃🅷🅴 🅱🅸🅶 🅻🅸🅴  
A flood of misinformation emanating from Republicans today, regarding federal workforce remote work hours.

Joni Ernst had said only 6% work onsite, and **Elon Musk** claimed it was 1%. These should be correctly recognized as outright (and fantastical) lies.

Here are the true stats:  
– only about half of federal workers are even eligible for remote work  
– 54% of employees are fully onsite (no remote work)  
– 10% of employees are fully remote (no facilities for them on site)  
– 36% of workers are rotating during the week, and of these, 60% to 80% of hours are worked onsite  
– 15% to 25% of all federal hours are worked remotely, depending on the onsite requirement.  
Further proof that we are living in the post-factual society, of which Trump is king.

[https://www.afge.org/publication/setting-the-record-straight-about-telework-use-by-federal-employees/](https://www.afge.org/publication/setting-the-record-straight-about-telework-use-by-federal-employees/)

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