# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1602 "2025-02-07T05:33:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Does it matter what nationality he or anyone else considers him to be? It mattered to Wolfpup’s argument. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1603 "2025-02-07T11:34:39Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > But here’s the thing. We got better. We’re getting even better. While America descends into Trumpian neo-Nazism. And so is South Africa, yet people keep trying to reduce Musk’s racism and white supremecy down to being purely a product of his birthplace and initial upbringing. Musk is a racist because being a racist has never been a problem in any of the places he has lived. Even though some of those places would not accept his racism today. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1604 "2025-02-07T12:51:48Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > March? June… the 19th to be specific. 6 will get you 19 Felon47 prohibits federal governent offices and the military from celebrating that _and_ somehow penalizes blue states who do celebrate it this year. > [@wolfpup](#): > > While America descends into Trumpian neo-Nazism. At the moment, I’m hoping it’s just _neo_-Nazism. Trump strikes me as old hat Nazi. Not a one of his overtly racist polices/executive orders has convinced me otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1605 "2025-02-07T13:08:31Z")
> [@yendis](#): > > And so is South Africa, yet people keep trying to reduce Musk’s racism and white supremecy down to being purely a product of his birthplace and initial upbringing. Bolding mine. Look, people around here aren’t _purely_ attributing it to his South African upbringing. And I understand the urge to get defensive about it. And I understand we have our own issues in the US. But it really doesn’t help your cause to minimize the effect, either. His dad is still hanging around the country and is, if anything, worse and it is only his relatively lower profile that makes him less dangerous. And, for most people, the culture you are exposed to in your first 15-20 years of life shapes you vastly more than whatever you experience in the next 100. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1606 "2025-02-07T16:29:23Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > And, for most people, the culture you are exposed to in your first 15-20 years of life shapes you vastly more than whatever you experience in the next 100. I’m guessing for most people, part of the culture for those 100 years after the first 15-20 is worm culture. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1607 "2025-02-07T16:31:32Z")
I’ll say this for worms - they’re equal opportunity corpse feeders. They don’t care if you were white, black, Christian, or fascist. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1608 "2025-02-07T16:40:01Z")
I think they avoid the fascists out of professional courtesy. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1609 "2025-02-07T17:13:58Z")
Truly, we’re missing the probable fact that Elmo’s brand of racism is a unique amalgam of “Apartheid was great”, “Hitler did nothing wrong”, and good ol’ fashioned American racism. It’s not just one hideous thing. It’s a complex melange of horrible hatreds. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1610 "2025-02-07T17:26:25Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Truly, we’re missing the probable fact that Elmo’s brand of racism is a unique amalgam of “Apartheid was great”, “Hitler did nothing wrong”, and good ol’ fashioned American racism. > > It’s not just one hideous thing. It’s a complex melange of horrible hatreds.   Well said. I think most of us, like me, didn’t fully appreciate what a completely deranged racist asshole Musk was until he took over Twitter and started spouting his venom. Thing is, he’s in basically the same position now as his orange co-president – he’s basically invulnerable. Lost Tesla sales? He doesn’t give a shit – he just hugely jacked up the price of Teslas in Canada (like a $9K increase on the most popular Model 3) just for spite. When Doug Ford cancelled Ontario’s $100 million Starlink contract (it’s now back on) Elmo tweeted two words: “Oh, well”. Elmo losing a few billion is like an ordinary person losing a dime through a hole in their pocket. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1611 "2025-02-07T17:55:32Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Elmo losing a few billion is like an ordinary person losing a dime through a hole in their pocket. And (more worryingly) he’s in a position to directly embezzle the Treasury of the United States without consequences. So commercial failures have become nearly irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1612 "2025-02-07T18:34:43Z")
The Phillip Law exposé article recently cited somewhere around here is telling. Elmo is a firm believer in a Master Race. But he, and he alone, is in it. The entire rest of humanity are inferior NPCs to be enslaved or ignored. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1613 "2025-02-07T23:32:53Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Elmo is a firm believer in a Master Race. But he, and he alone, is in it. The entire rest of humanity are inferior NPCs to be enslaved or ignored. I’m telling you, _The Man Who Fell to Earth_ is not a David Bowie movie, it’s a documentary about Elmo. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1614 "2025-02-08T01:09:24Z")
Quoting myself for context: > [@LSLGuy](#): > > The Phillip Law exposé article recently cited somewhere around here is telling. Turns out that name is Philip Low. Oops. That’s why I had failed to search it up successfully earlier. The Elmo exposé is upthread here and deserves a far wider audience than the spoilering of it suggests: > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1522): > > On another site, someone posted a lengthy statement, transcribed from several images, by a person who claims to be an acquaintance of Elno. I am not sure whether it is copyrighted, so it is obscured here until a mod can decide whether is should be truncated/deleted. play_button Philip Low statement If you have not read the spoilered content in @eschereal’s cited post please do. IMO it’s essential to correctly understanding the elmo phenomenon & the hazard he poses to everyone. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1615 "2025-02-08T01:49:41Z")
You need to choose your words more judiciously. “Hazard” implies a threat. Ell’no’s potential has been realized. He is no longer a _hazard_, he is a genuine **problem** , with no sign of abating. Something _has to_ be done about him, but the means are not clearly available, and it is not evident that he will not be replaced by a problem that comparable, or worse. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1616 "2025-02-08T01:52:33Z")
I don’t disagree. But the way I meant it was that problem he manifests as now is IMO a small fraction of the problem he’s going to become. There’s a lot of hazard yet to materialize. Anyone who’s now saying he’s 95% noise and bluster and real quick trump will get tired of somebody else hogging his stage and that’ll be the end of the elmo show is IMO sadly mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1617 "2025-02-08T04:08:29Z")
Next time, boo harder. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ey4an5j5m2h5v5qhcqs4hji2/bafkreibe46j4n3d6j6wfpi5a54e4xqcukd2a3srvfy7feuxde6omwmzfkm@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ey4an5j5m2h5v5qhcqs4hji2/bafkreibe46j4n3d6j6wfpi5a54e4xqcukd2a3srvfy7feuxde6omwmzfkm@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1618 "2025-02-08T06:05:28Z")
> **[Trump Struggling To Remember How He Related To Elon Musk](https://theonion.com/trump-struggling-to-remember-how-he-related-to-elon-musk/)** > > WASHINGTON—Trying to figure out if he had a third brother he forgot about or if Don Jr. had just lost some weight, President Donald Trump was reportedly struggling Friday to remember how he was related to Elon Musk. “I know that if he’s this high up... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1619 "2025-02-08T13:31:12Z")
There’s enough wackiness in trump/elon world without importing the Onion into it. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1620 "2025-02-08T14:05:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Elmo losing a few billion is like an ordinary person losing a dime through a hole in their pocket. Actually, not quite. A massive proportion of Elmo’s wealth is tied up in shares, and Tesla in particular is massively overvalued. If the market sees Tesla as just another car brand, and one that is apparently on the decline, he could “lose” tens of billions overnight and put much of the rest at risk in turn. There isn’t a realistic risk of him not being a billionaire but he could lose 70-80% of his current “worth” in a plausible scenario. \ I’m also going to throw out that I saw no issue with what you were saying about Canadians. People say things like “he’s nothing like any Canadians I’ve met”; it’s just putting across an impression of the culture and the person, not claiming omniscience. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1621 "2025-02-08T14:43:52Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > If the market sees Tesla as just another car brand And that really is the key to the differing opinions on Telsa’s valuation. Is it a car company? A battery company with a sidelight in cars? Or a self-driving AI company with a very hefty fleet of beta testers somebody else is paying for? Truth is it’s all three. And the fans see the latter two markets as vastly larger, faster growing, and easier for Tesla to stay the leader in. While the naysayers dismiss the second two and are steadfastly focused on car delivery volumes and margins. I personally am only partly persuaded by the boosters’ arguments. But it’s not crazy talk either. > [@Mijin](#): > > \ Release the worms!!!1! 😁 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=81)