Well, that just sucks. I had a friend a while back who’s husband had a kidney transplant. He died of cancer about ten years later and she always blamed the immuno-suppresent drugs for that. I had hoped that things would be better for you transplantees in the last 10 years, but it doesn’t appear that way.
So, while I’m not masking for you folks, I am masking so that should count for something, right?
I just can’t wrap my mind around this mindset. I don’t understand why anyone would take the easily avoided risk of losing a week while suffering from a hard illness while spreading it around in the general population at any random time (possibly once every 10 years, possibly not) rather than take the easy way out.
Its a little more bother now that I’m retired because we used to have a nurse or someone come to the office to jab us and now I have to go to my doctor or almost any large pharmacy.
There are side effects (blood clots, heart issues) that are certainly more risky than covid if you have a robust immune system and no comorbitities, as is typical for teens / 20s. It’s the “risk…is… more” I take issue with, because it ignores the math: the likelihood of getting side effects such as a fever is very great, but the likelihood of getting a serious side effect is vanishingly small, and I suspect (but don’t know) less than the likelihood of having a very serious bout of covid.
People seem to have abandonned AstraZeneca in droves because the potential side effect was scary, even though the incidence was very reassuring.
I got a booster shot for polio as an adult for travel purposes. One of the side effects was death. They made you sit there for 15 minutes after you got the shot, just in case, but I didn’t for an instant consider avoiding the shot.
The only disease I’ve even remotely heard about recently where side effect were a potential concern was smallpox. As in, the DoD was considering a vaccination plan for deployed personnel but largely holding off because vaccination side effects really would be worse if smallpox was not deployed as a biological weapon. But you can bet they’d order them for everybody if any ever did actually get out.
Not seeing how that applies to COVID. It’s actively out there rather than something we’ve eradicated. So far, the numbers appear to be that the disease (plus the currently very real risk of spreading it to others) is currently worse than any vaccination side effects. Once we get it under control that debate can be had again but we’re not there yet.
Lol. Apparently SARS, MERS, Swine flu weren’t “vaccinations” enough.
All this amazing infrastructure is going to get disbanded as soon as this pandemic is really over.
MIL never got the flu until she did and had fluid develop around her heart and died during surgery. Hubs has manage to erase that part from his mind.
I keep saying that ain’t none of us gonna be safe till all of us are safe. I am willing to be a spotter for a J&J dart crew, we would start with hubs, then move next door and across the street.
Yeah, we’ve kind of backed off in the past few weeks as well. We haven’t really started eating out much, but we’ve done it a couple of times so far. We aren’t totally averse to shopping in stores either, but our general attitude is more one of “If we can get it via online order/curbside pickup, we will”, and only go into the stores if we absolutely have to at this point, and masked up if we do, even though both of us are fully vaccinated with both doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
A few weeks back, we were less worried about it- more store shopping, and even a couple quick instances of unmasked shopping. No more of that.
What’s aggravating me the most is that our idiot governor has decreed that public institutions can NOT mandate mask-wearing for any reason. This would be fine if it was just places like the Capitol or City Hall or wherever. Those are 99.999% frequented by adults, and at that point, it’s more of a question of mask or not. But that idiot’s mandate extends to schools as well, and in particular elementary schools. So he’s basically said that elementary schools can’t force students or teachers to wear masks, despite the vast majority of elementary school students being too young to be vaccinated. And the state didn’t add extra funding for virtual schooling in this upcoming school year, so many districts are unlikely to actually implement it. So basically this plan is to have a bunch of unvaccinated children crowd together in schools and the school districts are prohibited from implementing effective disease mitigation measures.
Wow. I think I would home school my kids until they were vaccinated, if I lived in that state. And I’d have a very hard think about whether to continue living in that state.
As it happens, I live in a state with a generally sensible governor, and my kids go to a charter school with an incredible administrative team.
But I do feel like kids under 12 have been thrown under the bus with the guidance from the CDC, and reopening all over. I can’t express what a relief it will be for the vaccine to become available to them. I started out loosening up after I was fully vaccinated because they were saying it was safe. Then, it became clear that the initial talk about vaccinated people still being able to be infected and transmit it to others was the case, and I went back into the necessary mindset to protect my kids. Now with added resentment and fear because of others dropping precautions.
Looking into it, it looks like they flat won’t fund it. Not just no extra funding, but no funding at all for those kids. Funding is per student enrolled, and remote learning students won’t count.