# Now that Marion Z. Bradley's child raping has come out, does it change your desire to reread her? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973 "2014-06-30T00:25:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/301 "2014-07-04T02:33:11Z")
Knowing that things are never private on the internet, I find it “horrifying” that one would go to such strident lengths to defend that position on this topic. I’m not so much “horrified” at the position (distasteful as it is), but I could never post such a thing w/o concerning myself that somehow, somewhere, someone in my “real life” would find those words coming out of my mouth. I have opinions that would be shocking to many, of course, but I have enough brains not to post them here, where people I know can find them. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/302 "2014-07-04T03:20:15Z")
\*[Some other fun info from MZB’s testimony.](http://www.sff.net/people/stephen.goldin/mzb/MZB_Depos_1+2.html) Apparently, Moira’s claims were known back then because the lawyers made a deal that MZB’s “relationship” with her daughter would be off-limits. > [@MZB's Testimony](#): > > 2 Q. Ms. Zimmer Bradley, we’re going forward with > 3 your deposition today based upon the limitations that have > 4 been imposed by your doctors and your counsel; so we will > 5 have no more than one hour today of deposition. > 6 Do you understand that? > > 7 A. Yes, I do. Thank you. > > 8 Q. I’ve also agreed with your counsel not to delve > 9 into particular areas during this session of your > 10 deposition. > 11 Do you understand that? > > 12 A. Well, I think I know what you mean. > > 13 Q. Okay. I will not be asking any questions about > 14 your relationship with your daughter. > 15 Do you understand that? > > 16 A. Yes. > > 17 Q. I reserve my right to do so at a future date; > 18 okay? > > 19 A. Okay. MZB really likes sharing a bed with little girls: > [@](#): > > 17 The lady and her husband were hosting an overnight > 18 party, and there were about 14 people there. And I > 19 think about nine of us piled into bed together. > > 20 MR. DOLAN: Q. How many of those were > 21 children? > > 22 A. Four or five, I think. > > 23 Q. So you’ve shared a bed with minor children > 24 before too? > > 25 A. Well, they were all little girls. MZB tried to adopt little boys for Breen to rape (two sections, separated by a ------------- line) > [@](#): > > 7 Q. Did your daughter ever report that [Johnny Doe 1] had > 8 been found in Walter’s bed? > > 9 A. She did. > > 10 Q. Did you find that odd? > > 11 A. No. Walter had shared a bed with me on many > 12 occasions perfectly innocently. > > 13 Q. You knew that Walter was a pedophile at that > 14 time? > > 15 A. I knew it. Intellectually, yes, I knew it. > > 16 Q. And you knew that he was sharing a bed with a > 17 13-year-old boy at that point; correct? > > ## 18 A. Yes. But, as I say, I believed Walter was 19 impotent and nothing that could bother anyone could 20 happen. > > (I’m snipping some stuff about the specific adoption agency etc–you’ll see missing numbers) > 1 Q. At the time were you aware that [Johnny Doe 1] > 2 was in Walter’s bed on more than one occasion? > > 3 A. No, I was not. > > 4 Q. Did you make any attempts to adopt > > 5 [Johnny Doe 1]? > > 6 A. Yes. > ( snipping stuff about the specific adoption agency) > > 13 Q. Did you have to undergo any kind of > 14 interviews or evaluation for the fitness of being > 15 adoptive parents? > > 16 A. Yes. We went to a class for counseling for > 17 adoptive parents. > > 18 Q. And at what time frame was this that you had > 19 heard the report that [Johnny Doe 1] had been in Walter’s > 20 bed? > > 21 A. I don’t remember. > > 22 Q. Can you give me an estimate or approximation? > > 23 A. No; I really can’t. That was a long time > 24 ago. > > 25 Q. Was it when you were living at 2221 Prince > (new page, numbering restarts) > 1 Street with Walter? > > 2 A. Yes. > > (stuff about her house/address snipped) > > 8 Q. Was it before Ken Smith’s molestation was > 9 reported? > > 10 A. I never heard of Ken Smith. I mean, I’m told > 11 now that I know who he was, but I don’t have any clear > 12 memory of him. > > 13 Q. Do you recall the fact that Walter was > 14 arrested for the molestation of Ken Smith? > > 15 A. Yes. > > 16 Q. Was the fact that Walter was in bed with > 17 [Johnny Doe 1] known to you before Ken Smith was arrested? > > 18 A. Yes. > > 19 Q. Strike that. I’m going to ask the question > 20 again. > > 21 Was the fact that Walter was in bed with > 22 [Johnny Doe 1] known to you before Walter was arrested for > 23 the molestation of Ken Smith? > > 24 A. Yes. > (new page) > > (stuff about when she rented a house to Breen snipped) > > 10 Q. Where was he found in bed with [Johnny Doe 1]? > > 11 A. I don’t remember. > > 12 Q. Okay. > > 13 A. I thought of [Johnny Doe 1] as a little boy that came > 14 over the house, and he used to sit on my lap. > > 15 Q. Did you think [Johnny Doe 1] was of the age to make > 16 decisions whether or not he could have a sexual > 17 relationship with Walter? > > 18 A. I was sort of ambivalent about that. [Johnny Doe 1] > 19 was like a stray cat that somebody put out on the > 20 street, and I think he was surviving any way he could. > > 21 Q. That would include having sex with older men? > > 22 A. Probably. So: A) She tried to adopt a boy she knew her husband was raping B) Her claim that “Well, gawrsh! He was impotent so it must have been PERFECTLY innocent!” don’t hold up because elsewhere in the testimony she states that she’s aware of oral sex and thinks it’s perfectly icky.\* C) She likes to sleep with little girls. D) She is “ambivalent” about child rape and compares children to stray animals. Every time you think she can’t get worse, you just read a few more lines and…poof…she does. Um…kinda like Broomstick, actually. - Warning–brain bleach alert > [@](#): > > 5 Q. Do you know if Walter was incapable of giving > 6 oral sex to minor boys? > > 7 A. I have no idea. I know nothing at all about > 8 oral sex. I broke up both my own marriages over it. > > 9 Q. What was that last part? > > 10 A. I said I broke up both my own marriages over > 11 it. If she ended to marriages over oral sex, she knows enough about what it is to know that impotent or not, Breen could do it to the victims. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/303 "2014-07-04T03:34:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > So… why should I treat anyone making accusations any differently than I was treated? Why is _Moira Greylord_ to be believed and I am to be doubted? > No, raping a toddler is worse because it’s a sign of something being much more fucked-up with the rapist than someone who rapes someone who appears to be physically mature. Both cases are equally criminal, they’re both horrific, they’re both unacceptable. > So, you totally missed the post where I said _Mark Greylord_ also posting about his mother being abusive was adequate corroboration for me to say yes, it almost certainly happened…? > > Of course you did. You clearly don’t give a damn what I actually write. > > I think sometimes that since MZB is dead there are people looking for someone to whip in her place. As I’ve already pointed out to you their surname is Greyland. I’m curious as to why you are incapable of spelling these people’s names correctly? Are they not at least worthy of this common courtesy? It’s almost as though these victims aren’t really people in your eyes. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/304 "2014-07-04T03:35:42Z")
> [@lisiate](#): > > As I’ve already pointed out to you their surname is Greyland. I’m curious as to why you are incapable of spelling these people’s names correctly? Are they not at least worthy of this common courtesy? It’s almost as though these victims aren’t really people in your eyes. Wow. That’s quite a stretch. I mean, wow. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/305 "2014-07-04T03:38:09Z")
It’s a stretch I normally wouldn’t make, but in this context I think it’s a possibility. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/306 "2014-07-04T04:43:06Z")
I have to wonder why Broomstick gets all heated and expects her testimony about creepy customer to be taken at face value, but Moira (and other self-professed rape victims) should be doubted? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/307 "2014-07-04T04:51:56Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I have to wonder why Broomstick gets all heated and expects her testimony about creepy customer to be taken at face value, but Moira (and other self-professed rape victims) should be doubted? It is a mystery. We asked her about that but she can’t/won’t explain it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/308 "2014-07-04T05:10:08Z")
Okay, I said something similiar in the other thread, but **Broomstick** , even IF she didn’t molest her own daughter, she still aided and abetted her husband who DID molest a number of children. That’s enough. At first I was in your corner, in that I agreed, there’s nothing wrong with still wanting to enjoy a person’s work, even if they’re an awful human being. I still feel that way. But now you’re desparate to make excuses for the woman herself because you’re a fan of her books. And they’re starting to sound like the Joe Paterno thread. Like I said before, it’s Paper Towel Roll II. Do you really want to go down this road? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/309 "2014-07-04T05:33:16Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I have to wonder why Broomstick gets all heated and expects her testimony about creepy customer to be taken at face value, but Moira (and other self-professed rape victims) should be doubted? I feel like I’m just reading a completely different set of posts than everyone else in this thread, and it’s very odd. To me the so-obvious-it’s-hardly-worth-mentioning answer to your fairly facile question is that Broomstick DOES believe that Moira was raped, but the claim being made, and Broomstick thinking it more likely true than false, does not make MZB a convicted and proven rapist, which is a distinction that is important to maintain, both legally and ethically. On the other hand, in some other thread, Broomstick said some stuff about her life, and people may or may not believe it. What equivalence is there? > [@Guinastasia](#): > > But now you’re desparate to make excuses for the woman herself because you’re a fan of her books. And they’re starting to sound like the Joe Paterno thread. Like I said before, it’s Paper Towel Roll II. Again, please point me towards a specific post where Broomstick is defending MZB. Did I miss one? I honestly believe that I read every post of hers in this thread. By defending do you mean claiming that MZB is likely innocent? Or claiming that what MZB did is not so bad? Or claiming that somehow MZB’s insane literary genius absolves her of all sin? I saw none of the above. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/310 "2014-07-04T06:54:50Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I feel like I’m just reading a completely different set of posts than everyone else in this thread, and it’s very odd. > > To me the so-obvious-it’s-hardly-worth-mentioning answer to your fairly facile question is that Broomstick DOES believe that Moira was raped, but the claim being made, and Broomstick thinking it more likely true than false, does not make MZB a convicted and proven rapist, which is a distinction that is important to maintain, both legally and ethically. On the other hand, in some other thread, Broomstick said some stuff about her life, and people may or may not believe it. > > What equivalence is there? > > Again, please point me towards a specific post where Broomstick is defending MZB. Did I miss one? I honestly believe that I read every post of hers in this thread. By defending do you mean claiming that MZB is likely innocent? Or claiming that what MZB did is not so bad? Or claiming that somehow MZB’s insane literary genius absolves her of all sin? I saw none of the above. Whether the legal system has convicted someone or not is completely irrelevant if you think they did what they did. The only reason to bring it up is to argue that it possibly didn’t actually happen. She has argued many times that it is wrong to refer to her as a child rapist since unless you can provide a citation that she has been convicted. If I know someone is a murderer, it doesn’t matter whether they were convicted. They are still a murderer. If someone were to call OJ Simpson a murderer, and I were to say “He was never actually convicted of murder” I would clearly be saying I did not actually think he was a murderer. You seem to have a problem where you look at what she says in isolation and not in the context of the thread itself. Whether raping a toddler is worse than raping a 10 year old has absolutely no relevance to the topic of this thread. Whether that 10 year old looked mature for her age is irrelevant to this thread. But what is it relevant to? If you said “the arguments pedophile apologists bring out” you’d have a winner. If you can think of another reason to spontaneously bring up that other types of rape might be worse, I challenge you to give it. She has consistently downplayed the concerns of others throughout this thread. She calls the fact MZB covered up for a child rapist “views she doesn’t agree with.” She has taken child-rapist and converted it into “but it’s not as bad as toddler rape,” “maybe the 10 year old looked mature” and “but she was never convicted.” She is continually downplaying a very real, horrible issue. All of those are about taking “Marion Z. Bradley is a child-rapist and covered up for a child rapist” and softening it. According to her, she’s “Marion Z. Bradley who may have raped a 10 year old, but she probably looked mature for her age, And at least it wasn’t a toddler. And we have no proof since she was never convicted. I disagree with her views.” That is apologizing. That is what people object to. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/311 "2014-07-04T07:02:15Z")
As for why people bring up what she said in the past: read the post she is responding to. She got righteously pissed when someone dared to minimize what had happened to her. She got upset that someone was making the argument that what happened to her was not as bad as having been sexually abused. Apparently, in that situation, saying one thing is less bad than another was unacceptable. But, here, it’s supposedly to be perfectly okay. Both are equally unacceptable for the same reason. That Y is worse has no bearing on the fact that X is bad. And both involve rape, something people get really upset about. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/312 "2014-07-04T07:20:40Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Per “Broom-I can break your femur with my Kung Fu”-stick _Please_ don’t do this. It adds nothing to the conversation, it’s just trolling. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/313 "2014-07-04T09:26:51Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > That’s a pretty fucked-up thing to say to a survivor of child sexual abuse, one of the people around here who is actually (regrettably) most qualified to actually have an opinion about the matter. Hey, FYI, I don’t need the likes of _you_ to stand up for me, thanks. And I’m perfectly capable of citing my own past when it’s relevant, which it totally fucking wasn’t in this case. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/314 "2014-07-04T14:35:05Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > _Please_ don’t do this. It adds nothing to the conversation, it’s just trolling. I agree that it’s true in some cases that bringing up past posts is irrelevant, but in this case I think it is absolutely germane to the thread. The thread I linked to and the incident **Fenris** is talking about spawned a huge amount of defensive, “My post is my cite”/ why do you _always_ doubt women/ don’t blame the victim-type posts, and then… > [@raventhief](#): > > I have to wonder why Broomstick gets all heated and expects her testimony about creepy customer to be taken at face value, but Moira (and other self-professed rape victims) should be doubted? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/315 "2014-07-04T14:44:02Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > I agree that it’s true in some cases that bringing up past posts is irrelevant, but in this case I think it is absolutely germane to the thread. Her once claiming to be a kung-fu ninja, or whatever, is germane _how_? I get bringing up the “Nobody believes I was harassed in a cobbler’s shop” bit, but the leg-breaking thing, specifically, isn’t. It’s just a cheap shot. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/316 "2014-07-04T14:57:50Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Her once claiming to be a kung-fu ninja, or whatever, is germane _how_? I get bringing up the “Nobody believes I was harassed in a cobbler’s shop” bit, but the leg-breaking thing, specifically, isn’t. It’s just a cheap shot. I guess you and I just have different ideas about how much detail is ok, then. I get what you’re saying; I just feel differently. She was pretty adamant in that thread that anyone who didn’t believe that she had broken the guy’s femur was a doubting asshole, which in my opinion makes it relevant to the question of why the double standard about believability. And I don’t believe for a second that **Broomstick** ’s experience being questioned about her stories has resulted in her now needing to question others. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/317 "2014-07-04T15:08:22Z")
The femur-breaking claim simply underscores how she doubles down–and down and down–into absurdity when challenged. Well, in this case she started at absurdity and ended up at obscenity. I don’t think anyone challenged her claim of being harassed either. It was her histrionics against all and sundry that generated the backlash. (And I generally dislike the persistent references to past threads.) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/318 "2014-07-04T15:11:40Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Her once claiming to be a kung-fu ninja, or whatever, is germane _how_? I get bringing up the “Nobody believes I was harassed in a cobbler’s shop” bit, but the leg-breaking thing, specifically, isn’t. It’s just a cheap shot. It’s not. Her kung-fu femur breaking skillz were when she was allegedly sexually assaulted. In a thread called “Blame the victim mentality regarding rape/sexual assault”, Broomie chimed in about how she was attacked but heroically fought off her attacker, but didn’t say anything because she was afraid of the consequences and how dare people ask her “How did you know he wanted to rape you?”. [Cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11563632&postcount=49)\* There’s a clear correlation/connection between her comments in that thread and the obvious hypocrisy in this one. \* > [@Blame the victim mentality regarding rape/sexual assault](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blame-the-victim-mentality-regarding-rape-sexual-assault/510151/49): > > I haven’t been raped - I successfully fought my attacker. > > However, at times when I have mentioned the attempted rape I have been asked “how did you know he wanted to rape you?” > > Well, fuck - I was in my own backyard on a Sunday afternoon when this goon grabs me from behind with an arm around my neck, drags me into the bushes, and starts trying to remove my clothes. I thought “impending rape” was a reasonable conclusion. And it’s not like the alternatives to rape for that scenario were going to be fun for me either. It sure felt like assault of \*some \*sort before he even finished dragging me into the bushes. > > Just for the record - I hit him a bunch of times, but what made him drop me long enough for me to run like hell was the kick that broke his leg. The pity is, I’d been aiming for his testicles and missed, hitting his leg instead. > > Still, I never said anything to anyone for years afterward. I was afraid I’d be brought up on assault charges myself, even if he was an intruder on home area. And yeah, I was pretty sure it was rape on his mind - I knew him from school, I was [not] the first girl he ever attacked, just probably the first one to fight him off. > > Anyhow, it sure convinced me that it could happen any time and any where. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/319 "2014-07-04T15:18:52Z")
Did **Broomstick** happen to turn any of you into a newt? ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973/320 "2014-07-04T15:24:09Z")
I read the femur breaking incident in the cobbler thread. Hence my citing it as an example of Broomstick doubling down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-marion-z-bradleys-child-raping-has-come-out-does-it-change-your-desire-to-reread-her/691973.md?page=17)