# Now that Musk bought Twitter -- Breaking News only **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, elon-musk\ **Created:** [November 29, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737 "2022-11-29T13:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/1 "2022-11-29T13:10:55Z")
Well, the IMHO thread kept heading off the rails, and is now in the pit. > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter/963442): > > What would prevent Jack Dorsey from building a different type of Social Media platform that rivals Twitter? But I think there’s interest in just following what’s happening to Twitter. Layoffs? Hardcore-only? More traffic? Fewer advertisers? New/broken features? Post about it here. Then go to the pit thread if you feel the need to vent. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/2 "2022-11-29T13:12:33Z")
Edited to add approximate timeline. I’ll update this when I find the dates, you ask me to add more, etc. 2022-04-14: Musk offers to buy Twitter for a cannabis-related price Lots of back and forth, and eventually 2022-10-27: Musk actually buys Twitter 2022-10-27: Musk fires CEO, CFO, and other top brass 2022-11-01: Musk announces that verification checkmarks will be sold for $20, no $8/month. ??: Musk lays off x% of staff ??: Musk says, "agree to work hardcore by Thursday, or take 3 months of severance ??% of employees take the severance ??: Musk decides to remove all microservices and breaks two-factor authentication ??: Two-factor authentication restored ??: Musk tells remaining employees (some of them? all of them) to report to headquarters with photocopies of their best code, and a list of what they’ve done for the company Anything else I ought to include? Any help on dates appreciated. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/3 "2022-11-29T13:16:04Z")
Thank you. I’m interested in what’s happening at Twitter, so very NOT interested in wading through Pit sludge to find nuggets of news. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/4 "2022-11-29T13:17:44Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/5 "2022-11-29T13:53:17Z")
On this front, have any Twitter users here noticed changes in reliability or content? My feed hasn’t really changed, although I used to get a lot of M&M and Gatorade ads, and maybe I’m not anymore? I haven’t noticed crashes or glitches, or an onslaught of porn, spam, or fascism in my feed. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/6 "2022-11-29T13:53:49Z")
This was the most recent news story I’ve seen: > **[Elon Musk picks fight with Apple over ad spending, free speech commitment |...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/elon-musk-apple-twitter-1.6666905)** > > Elon Musk accused Apple Inc. of threatening to block Twitter Inc. from its app store and says the iPhone maker has stopped advertising on the social media platform. No confirmation or denial from Apple, so far as I can tell. If Twitter is booted off Apple Store, that would be a bit of a hit to Twitter’s bottom line, I would think. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/7 "2022-11-29T14:13:07Z")
> **[Elon Musk Shares Vision For “Twitter 2.0”](https://www.searchenginejournal.com/elon-musk-shares-vision-for-twitter-2-0/472476/)** > > Elon Musk shares his plans for turning Twitter into an "everything app." > **[Layoffs Have Gutted Twitter’s Child Safety Team](https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-material/)** > > Just one person remains to enforce the company’s ban on child sexual abuse across Japan and the Asia Pacific region. > **[Twitter is no longer enforcing its Covid misinformation policy | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/29/tech/twitter-covid-misinformation-policy/index.html)** > > Twitter said it will no longer enforce its longstanding Covid misinformation policy, yet another sign of how Elon Musk plans to transform the social media company he bought a month ago. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/8 "2022-11-29T14:22:47Z")
I have been seeing a lot more “personal” ads. They arent really gender specific but do include young, partially clad models of both sexes, all of whom are almost offensively young. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/9 "2022-11-29T14:25:36Z")
Interesting. I have my feed pretty locked down – I found some suggestion for blocking suggested tweets. I only see tweets that the people I follow post, or what they retweet. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more stability issues. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/10 "2022-11-29T14:35:03Z")
I didn’t really use twitter much, so didn’t play with the controls much. I am on more now because I like watching train crashes. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/11 "2022-11-29T15:58:15Z")
A lot of the stability that social media should maintain is not much related to technical issues. Twitter is letting a lot of that stability to falter. > **[Sympathy, and Job Offers, for Twitter’s Misinformation Experts (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/28/technology/twitter-misinformation-experts-hiring.html)** > > Seeing false and toxic information as a potentially expensive liability, companies in and outside the tech industry are angling to hire people who can keep it in check. > In the weeks since Elon Musk took over Twitter, dozens of people responsible for keeping dangerous or inaccurate material in check on the service have posted on LinkedIn that they resigned or lost their jobs. Their statements have drawn a flood of condolences — and attempts to recruit them. > > Overtures arrived from rival tech services, retailers, consulting firms, government contractors and other organizations that want to use the former Twitter employees — and those recently let go by [Meta](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/10/business/layoffs-meta-twitter.html) and the payments platform Stripe — to track and combat false and toxic information on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/12 "2022-11-29T19:07:59Z")
So far, on my own feed I’ve not noticed much difference. Somewhat sketchier “promoted” tweets, but those are easily ignored. No significant technical glitches. On the “trending” list, OTOH, there’s quite a bit more right wing items than there used to be. Even that is still overwhelmed by sports and pop culture, just as before. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/13 "2022-11-29T21:27:45Z")
I don’t have a Twitter account but click on links to tweets all the time. Before the last couple days, if I tried to read more than a few replies, I got a pop-up asking me to sign up or log in. I would click log in, then X out of that screen and continue reading. But now the pop-up has disappeared and I can read everything without interruption. It appears they are no longer trying to get new users by that route. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/14 "2022-11-29T21:42:10Z")
Getting rid of the login popup like a positive change to me. I don’t have an account, and would just close the Twitter tab rather than create an account. So instead of spending time browsing what’s on Twitter and maybe getting enticed to join, I would leave. Now without the popup, people without accounts may browse for longer, find more interesting stuff on Twitter, and join up. So it may be a good change in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/15 "2022-11-29T21:52:32Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > So far, on my own feed I’ve not noticed much difference. Somewhat sketchier “promoted” tweets, but those are easily ignored. No significant technical glitches. > > On the “trending” list, OTOH, there’s quite a bit more right wing items than there used to be. Even that is still overwhelmed by sports and pop culture, just as before. ⁢ I’ve noticed that, too. But I’m not sure how much of that is Twitter and how much of that is that I was more likely to respond to the right wing posters to explain why they were wrong, often even getting angry at them. That said, before it was mostly on left wing topics that right wingers would comment on. Now I see more right wing stuff. What I see more of is just people commenting on the problems Twitter is having, and then linking to it. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/16 "2022-11-29T22:06:03Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I’m surprised there hasn’t been more stability issues. It took two days for hubs to be able to start an account because it kept freezing and locking up. Now that his account is finally active, that issue seems to be gone. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/17 "2022-11-30T01:54:24Z")
[Recent ad losses](https://www.platformer.news/p/twitters-advertising-losses-are-piling) > [@](#): > > On Monday morning, a revenue analyst for Twitter in Europe shared some disheartening news. “We are seeing a significant decline in bookings,” the analyst posted in Slack, before sharing the numbers. Twitter’s ad revenue in Europe, the Middle East and Africa (EMEA) is down 15 percent year over year, he said, and weekly bookings are down 49 percent […] > > The losses come at a critical period for Twitter, which has been counting on the confluence of Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and the ongoing World Cup to drive increases in quarterly revenue. “It’s catastrophic,” one former Twitter executive told us. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/18 "2022-11-30T02:41:21Z")
I’m not disputing that Twitter is being spiraled into the ground by Lord Musk, Dipshit Extraordinaire. But I admit to having a problem comprehending a quote saying revenue down 15 % and bookings down 49%. For sure they’re different things over different time periods, but some more detail would be nice. Not @Kimstu’s fault in any way, it’s a sloppy source. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/19 "2022-11-30T02:53:19Z")
Agreed, very minimal and unclear information, I’m afraid. [A recent tweet by one of the coauthors](https://twitter.com/caseynewton/status/1597758754707017728) seems to suggest that what it means is that Twitter ad revenue this year is down 15% from what it was last year, while ad revenue this week is down 49% from what it was last week. (That’s “in key markets”, whose exact extent and composition is not clear, rather than for Twitter as a whole.) My tentative big-picture takeaway is that European advertisers in particular are reacting negatively to developments at Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/20 "2022-11-30T03:03:48Z")
Thanks for the additional clarification. Drain-circling in inherently a chaotic maneuver. Doubly so as seen from the blood-soaked trenches where 2/3rds of your cow-orkers have disappeared in the last 3 weeks and half the buttons on your work PC elicit errors, not data. All I can see is a caricature of a WW-II submarine movie where scared men are screaming as water is blasting into their faces in the gathering dark while they madly turn valves and close hatches and such. The big difference now at Twitter is many of these wet cold scared people are women. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737.md?page=2)