# Now that Musk bought Twitter -- Breaking News only **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, elon-musk\ **Created:** [November 29, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737 "2022-11-29T13:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/221 "2023-05-31T12:47:30Z")
Yeah, he’s creating an _excellent_ tax write-off. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/222 "2023-05-31T22:28:14Z")
Assuming that it’s still a C-Corporation, the only write-off would be when he sells it. And to get any use out of the loss besides $3,000 a year, he’d have to have comparable capital gains, which presumably means selling Tesla shares. So yeah, it might be a good plan to both get him out of holding mostly Tesla stock and take down the Twitter empire he hated in the process of diversifying his portfolio with minimal tax consequence. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/223 "2023-06-01T13:22:27Z")
I was mostly joking. “Deliberately lose money to generate a profitable tax write-off” is a pretty standard joke in accounting. Kinda like “we lose money on every sale but we make it up on the volume!” The humor is in the unstated _nonsequitur_ just below the surface. But he can also fold Twitter Inc into some other profitable entity, take all the stock loss as negative “goodwill” when he does so and in effect run the other one as an untaxed profitable company for some time. And yes, destroy the hated “woke” version of twitter which was/is his actual goal all along. Along with generating hate for himself from the wokerati and love for himself from the trogs. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/224 "2023-06-06T01:03:49Z")
NYT says that Twitter ad revenue is down 59%, year-over-year. > **[An internal Twitter document reportedly shows ad revenue down 59%, casting...](https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-twitter-documents-ad-revenue-down-elon-musk-denials-report-2023-6)** > > Improving advertising revenue will be a key job for Twitter's new CEO Linda Yaccarino after brands fled the platform when Elon Musk took over. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/225 "2023-06-08T01:00:18Z")
I’m honestly quite surprised there are any major advertisers left. They must be getting an amazing deal to be willing to have their brands next to _extreme_ far-right stuff. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/226 "2023-06-08T01:44:20Z")
It’s actually still quite possible to arrange your timeline so no right wing political stuff shows up. I do. You just have to avoid following any news or current events accounts. Interestingly, one of the big advertisers still on is Disney. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/227 "2023-06-21T22:16:57Z")
> **[Musk refused to pay annual bonuses promised to Twitter employees, lawsuit says](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/musk-owned-twitter-stiffed-employees-on-promised-bonuses-class-action-says/)** > > Lawsuit: Workers relied on promise of bonus when opting to stay after Musk buyout. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/228 "2023-06-22T00:36:00Z")
Agile compensation plan. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/229 "2023-06-22T00:49:02Z")
Sounds like Elon is playing “Who moved my cheese?” with his minions. He can probably move cheese better than most of the workers can pursue cheese. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/230 "2023-06-30T22:28:13Z")
> **[Twitter isn't letting users view the site without logging in | CNN Business](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/30/tech/twitter-public-access-restricted/index.html)** > > Twitter appears to be restricting access to its platform for anyone not logged into an account. I’m admittedly a bit pissed, as I get a lot of UKR-war coverage out of 3 or 4 twitter accounts … no longer the case … It seems they have too many visitors on the site and need to see how they can shed a couple of million page views per day… ;o/ any thought about a “why”??? (fwiw: I am not signing up for an account) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/231 "2023-06-30T22:35:51Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > any thought about a “why”??? (fwiw: I am not signing up for an account) From the horse’s mouth: [![](https://github-production-user-asset-6210df.s3.amazonaws.com/71434691/250187597-4e190dba-3c5a-4acb-99ba-2e897fa69cbc.jpeg) ](https://github-production-user-asset-6210df.s3.amazonaws.com/71434691/250187597-4e190dba-3c5a-4acb-99ba-2e897fa69cbc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/232 "2023-06-30T23:24:55Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > It seems they have too many visitors on the site and need to see how they can shed a couple of million page views per day… ;o/ That should help the advertising revenue. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/233 "2023-06-30T23:38:09Z")
Translation: Our servers are failing because I fired all the people who knew how to maintain them. Give me $8! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/234 "2023-06-30T23:48:19Z")
Yeah, what he’s calling “data pillaging” is what normal tech companies call “usage”, and it’s what they try to get. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/235 "2023-07-01T01:22:06Z")
If they’re taking data and not paying for it, it’s theft. Theft at scale is sometimes called pillage. Coming soon to a twitter near you: not pay to post, but pay to read. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/236 "2023-07-03T20:10:40Z")
Interesting article about the end of social media. Hmmm, maybe a little niche place on the web to post stuff and build a community isn’t such a bad idea. > **[So where are we all supposed to go now?](https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/3/23782607/social-web-public-apps-end-reddit-twitter-mastodon)** > > Twitter’s dying, Reddit’s changing, everything else is entertainment – and there’s nowhere left to hang out. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/237 "2023-07-04T02:29:51Z")
Message boards are back, I tell you! SDMB renaissance! ---
**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/238 "2023-07-04T08:24:33Z")
Off the article: “There’s simply no place left on the internet that feels like a good, healthy, worthwhile place to hang out.” I find plenty of such places, in various online forums which aren’t for everyone and their aunt. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/239 "2023-07-04T14:21:14Z")
Yeah, everybody talks about the “public square” but in RealWorld we did **not** _all_ hang out in the same public square all day. Depending on your interests you’d be variously at the cofeeshop, the faculty lounge, the student bar, the country bar, the fancy martini/cigar bar, the gay club, the punk club, the Mall food court, the bookshop, the gym, and even in the “public park” you’d have some people over at the chess tables, some at the dog run, some on soapboxes at Speakers’ Corner, all happily engaging with people with common interests and ignoring the others unless curiosity drove them to check it out, and then easily walking away if they did not like it and it would not (normally) chase them home. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/240 "2023-07-05T18:07:47Z")
At least one ex-employee won a settlement. meanwhile, Others forced into arbitration have to sue to have the arbitration happen because (no surprise) Twitter refuses to pay the arbitration fees: > **[Twitter refuses to pay for arbitration it forced on 891 ex-employees, suit says](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/twitter-refuses-to-pay-for-arbitration-it-forced-on-891-ex-employees-suit-says/)** > > Meanwhile, at least one Twitter ex-employee has won a rare settlement. Brian [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737.md?page=13)