# Now that Musk bought Twitter -- Breaking News only **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news, elon-musk\ **Created:** [November 29, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737 "2022-11-29T13:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/241 "2023-07-06T00:04:10Z")
A major new competitor is now live: > **[Threads, Meta's Twitter competitor, is now live](https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/threads-metas-twitter-competitor-is-now-live/)** > > Meta is taking on Twitter with a text-based app called Threads, which integrates directly with Instagram. The app is out on iOS and Android. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/242 "2023-07-06T00:31:55Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > At least one ex-employee won a settlement. meanwhile, Others forced into arbitration have to sue to have the arbitration happen because (no surprise) Twitter refuses to pay the arbitration fees: > [Twitter refuses to pay for arbitration it forced on 891 ex-employees, suit says | Ars Technica](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/07/twitter-refuses-to-pay-for-arbitration-it-forced-on-891-ex-employees-suit-says/) This goes to something that is happening at lots of companies, not just Twitter - and it’s a cool story. Since the early 1990’s, large companies have used arbitration clauses to evade legal accountability to their employees and customers. Arbitration clauses allow companies to require customers and employees to give up their right to sue, including class action suits, instead requiring them to go into individual binding arbitration, with an arbitrator selected by the company. There is cost to making a claim annd they were frequently unlikely to succeed. This dissuaded people from pursing legal action. But recently, some law firms automated the procedures for filing for binding arbitration, and sent in tens of thousands of simultaneous request for arbitration - swamping the companies legal departments and running up huge fees. In some cases, the companies decide it’s cheaper to allow the class action suits they were trying to avoid. In other cases they’ve run up huge costs from the tens of thousands of arbitrations - I’m not sure if other companies dodged their arbitration bills like Twitter did, though. > **[DoorDash’s anti-worker tactics just backfired spectacularly](https://www.vox.com/2020/2/12/21133486/doordash-workers-10-million-forced-arbitration-class-action-supreme-court-backfired)** > > When dividing and conquering goes wrong. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/243 "2023-07-06T00:35:55Z")
> Twitter’s dying, Reddit’s changing, everything else is entertainment – and there’s nowhere left to hang… > [@Toxylon](#): > > “There’s simply no place left on the internet that feels like a good, healthy, worthwhile place to hang out.” Shhh…don’t tell anyone about the Aight-Stray Ope-day… We don’t need all those “huddled masses yearning to breathe free” mucking the place up. Well, certainly not all at once. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/244 "2023-07-06T00:41:05Z")
I love this place, I’ve been here a long, long time. But there’s something missing here that Twitter has (had?). That’s posts by the real newsmakers/celebrities themselves. If, for example, Janelle Monáe herself would come to comment in the thread about her that was in Café Society a few months ago. As she does sometimes on Twitter. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/245 "2023-07-06T00:51:52Z")
We had Neil Degrasse Tyson once, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/246 "2023-07-06T00:54:28Z")
Yeah, we only get the cool celebrities. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/247 "2023-07-06T00:57:21Z")
I guess what I mean is that I won’t be the first person to leave Twitter for another site. I’ll wait to see where the celebrities go first, and follow them. Because they’re the draw. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/248 "2023-07-06T01:14:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yeah, we only get the cool celebrities. I wish Randall would post here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/249 "2023-07-06T01:37:47Z")
The first impressions of Threads are… not good. > > > > > I don’t think this is gonna be the Twitter-killer unless Zucker Carlson changes a lot of things real fast. (Also, whoever decided to give the hip new social media app the same name as a nightmare-inducing film about nuclear war should probably start updating their resume.) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/250 "2023-07-06T01:40:06Z")
I’m not sure why anyone thought Zuck was going to be our savior. The Facebook feed has been thoroughly and completely enshittified, but we thought Meta would get it right with Twitter? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/251 "2023-07-06T01:46:14Z")
Well, not being on Twittster or Wolly Mammoth or Threadbare, all I know is that a brother who is “impressed” by Elmo just joined Threads. And he really likes it so far: “I love watching celebrities show up each day. Gordon Ramsay just started here, and had some great comments. I’ll just interact with them til they get crazy, then I’ll back away.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/252 "2023-07-06T05:22:33Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’m not sure why anyone thought Zuck was going to be our savior. Right. Important thing to note: the Threads release is US only for now; it’s unavailable in the EU because they know the product in this early stage will violate our data privacy laws. Almost certainly, that means Zuck saw an opportunity to unseat a competitor but he just couldn’t resist his natural impulse to use the new platform as an indiscriminate data vacuum, and it will take time to soften that functionality to comply with EU law (or to conceal or obscure the functionality so it doesn’t attract user attention and regulator scrutiny) before launching here. No Meta product will be the answer in this space, because they simply can’t be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/253 "2023-07-06T09:29:43Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > I love this place, I’ve been here a long, long time. But there’s something missing here that Twitter has (had?). That’s posts by the real newsmakers/celebrities themselves. If, for example, Janelle Monáe herself would come to comment in the thread about her that was in Café Society a few months ago. As she does sometimes on Twitter. Ugh, the last thing I want here on the Dope is celebrities throwing their fame around. This isn’t a fan site. If celebs want to post here they should choose an anonymous username and let their posts speak for themselves, just like the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/254 "2023-07-06T10:22:25Z")
I’m not saying I want it here, I’m saying that’s what makes Twitter different. Twitter is, essentially, a fan site and I use it with that in mind —. I am a fan of the accounts I follow. The SDMB has an entirely different purpose, so it wouldn’t be a good replacement, is what I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/255 "2023-07-06T10:42:20Z")
I miss the old days, you know, before business interests ruined the internet. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/256 "2023-07-06T13:52:06Z")
So, the 1950’s then? ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/257 "2023-07-06T18:48:16Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Important thing to note: the Threads release is US only for now; it’s unavailable in the EU because they know the product in this early stage will violate our data privacy laws. As of 2 hours ago > Threads is now available to download in over 100 countries including the UK, but not yet in the EU because of regulatory concerns. Source: > **[Thirty million join Meta's Twitter rival Threads, Zuckerberg says](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-66112648)** > > The Meta chief is hoping Threads, his new Instagram-linked app, will beat Twitter on numbers. j ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/258 "2023-07-06T19:29:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/1676748897203503105) I agree with this and won’t care much about Threads until I can actually use it in my PC browser (right now it won’t even load on Firefox). But I know that Meta and other companies REALLY want me to use the mobile app where I have no defenses against the data collection driving the business – so I’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/259 "2023-07-06T20:55:55Z")
> [@](#): > > Why would I choose to use something under-powered and clunky when I have my PC? I’m glad that I’m not the only one with this mindset. I only use my phone for things that need to be done on a phone. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/260 "2023-07-09T01:07:40Z")
I am SO glad it isn’t just me, the old man. It was horrible. I felt the same way about Instagram: horribly, unalterably noisy, so no surprise Threads is more of the same. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737.md?page=14)