# Now that Musk bought Twitter -- Breaking News only

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news, elon-musk\
**Created:** [November 29, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737 "2022-11-29T13:10:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/121 "2022-12-13T17:43:58Z")

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Some positive news about Musk:

> **[Elon Musk gave $5.7 billion to charity last year. Where the money went was a...](https://fortune.com/2022/12/12/elon-musk-gave-5-7-billion-to-charity-last-year-where-it-went-was-a-mystery-until-now/)**
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> Until now, it was unclear which organizations he funded.

The money went to the Musk Foundation, and actual donations to charity were a small fraction of this.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/122 "2022-12-13T19:02:44Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Obviously, they weren’t hard-core. Taking the week-end off? Pfft

That’s not a joke, that’s how the fu…er, man, thinks. My cousin was working on Thanksgiving morning.

(And then was personally fired by Elmo, via tweet, a week later. Merry Christmas!)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/123 "2022-12-14T00:32:01Z")

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> **[Musk Shakes Up Twitter’s Legal Team as He Looks to Cut More Costs (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html)**
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> Twitter has stopped paying rent on offices and is considering not paying severance packages to former employees, among other measures.

> To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musk’s takeover, according to a copy of a lawsuit filed in New Hampshire District Court and obtained by The New York Times…

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/124 "2022-12-14T01:12:58Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Fox et al are saying that the “Biden administration” pressured Twitter to bury stories about Hunter’s laptop.  
> Meanwhile regular news are saying it was the Biden _campaign_ that requested that Twitter take down naked images of Hunter (which are against Twitter’s ToS anyway), not hide any stories.

Here’s a hint - in 2020, when these events occurred, there was _no such thing_ as “the Biden Administration”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/125 "2022-12-14T03:15:21Z")

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But, but, _but_, her emails!!! Waaah!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/126 "2022-12-14T15:48:27Z")

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More “Free Speech Absolutism”:

> **[Twitter suspends account dedicated to tracking Elon Musk's private jet](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/14/twitter-suspends-elonjet-account-that-tracks-elon-musks-private-jet-.html)**
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> The Twitter account used to track billionaire Elon Musk's private jet was suspended as of Wednesday morning.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/127 "2022-12-14T17:22:43Z")

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Musk is no longer the world’s richest man.

> **[Elon Musk is no longer the richest person in the world](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/elon-musk-is-no-longer-the-richest-person-in-the-world.html)**
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> Bernard Arnault is now the richest man in the world, dethroning Tesla CEO Elon Musk after a continued decline in Tesla share price, according to Forbes.

This is due to a sell off of Tesla shares, partially thanks to the Twitter debacle.

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/128 "2022-12-14T17:36:37Z")

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Will he be forced to drive a car with doors that open horizontally, not one with doors that open vertically?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FWoQvymDSuw/maxresdefault.jpg "These are not the doors of a billionaire! Full Clip from Silicon Valley S02E07") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWoQvymDSuw)

Actually, the Tesla Model Y has gullwing doors in the back, so I would guess probably not.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/129 "2022-12-15T16:00:36Z")

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Now this:

> **[Twitter reportedly fails to pay rent for SF headquarters](https://www.ktvu.com/news/twitter-sis-reportedly-not-paying-rent-for-sf-hq-or-severance-to-former-employees)**
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> Twitter has failed to pay rent on its downtown San Francisco headquarters for weeks, according to a new report from the New York Times. 

Seriously, how does he think this ends?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/130 "2022-12-15T16:54:27Z")

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He stalls them until he can relocate his headquarters to ~~the 19th Century~~ Texas and then they can ~~kiss his ass~~ sue him.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/131 "2022-12-15T17:30:21Z")

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_Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/131))_

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/132 "2022-12-16T01:54:56Z")

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It’s great that Elon supports freedom of speech, right?

> **[Elon Musk bans several prominent journalists from Twitter, calling into...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/media/twitter-musk-journalists-hnk-intl/index.html)**
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> Twitter on Thursday evening banned the accounts of several high-profile journalists from the nation's top news organizations, marking a significant attempt by new owner and self-described free speech absolutist Elon Musk to wield his unilateral...

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/133 "2022-12-16T02:47:32Z")

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As Dirty Harry never, ever thought about saying:

> Nuthin’ wrong with censorship … as long as the right people get censored.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/134 "2022-12-16T17:12:11Z")

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[Elon Musk Faces Growing Anger Over Twitter Ban of Journalists](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/business/elon-musk-twitter-suspensions.html)

> The suspensions, which were criticized by U.S. and European lawmakers, could raise the regulatory heat on the social media platform — and Elon Musk’s other companies.

> Elon Musk faced a [growing backlash](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-16/musk-faces-threats-from-european-lawmakers-over-twitter-bans) on Friday from lawmakers on both sides of the Atlantic, with threats of fines and sanctions, after Twitter [suspended the accounts](https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/Q4z1SIa_QmcaOqqEa4bkKg~~/AAAAAQA~/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/15/technology/twitter-suspends-journalist-accounts-elon-musk.html?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20221216&instance_id=80342&nl=dealbook&regi_id=38985151&segment_id=120018&te=1&user_id=38a8b5cfe01cccc2087279fc3af4528e) of at least eight journalists on Thursday without warning.
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> The suspended accounts included those belonging to Ryan Mac of The New York Times, Donie O’Sullivan of CNN and Drew Harwell of The Washington Post. It was unclear what the suspensions had in common.
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> The silencing of prominent voices could raise the regulatory heat on Twitter, and possibly Mr. Musk’s other companies, including Tesla and SpaceX, which is a big recipient of government funding and projects. It could also hurt his push to get reluctant advertisers back onto the platform.
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> The action set off a wave of protests. News organizations, including The Times and CNN, have demanded that Mr. Musk explain his rationale. Supporters of the journalists argued on Twitter that the move was overly punitive.
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> Lawmakers in the European Union may go on the offensive. Vera Jourova, a vice president of the European Commission, said the move violated the E.U.’s Digital Services Act and its Media Freedom Act.
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> “There are red lines. And sanctions, soon,” she [tweeted](https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/F8vo-flYOWP0Zgf7Ob05Ew~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlfvkeP0TqaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9WZXJhSm91cm92YS9zdGF0dXMvMTYwMzY4OTQ0MDcxMDM2OTI4MT9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD00JmVtYz1lZGl0X2RrXzIwMjIxMjE2Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTgwMzQyJm5sPWRlYWxib29rJnJlZ2lfaWQ9Mzg5ODUxNTEmcz0yMCZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTEyMDAxOCZ0PWRVUjlMNTEzMlRBcE1zWEhtcmtNUVEmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTM4YThiNWNmZTAxY2NjYzIwODcyNzlmYzNhZjQ1MjhlVwNueXRCCmOPHnScY43BOBZSFGdzY2htaWR0QG55dGltZXMuY29tWAQAAAAA) Friday morning.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/135 "2022-12-16T17:19:58Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> Vera Jourova, a vice president of the European Commission, said the move violated the E.U.’s Digital Services Act and its Media Freedom Act.
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> “There are red lines. And sanctions, soon,” she [tweeted](https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/F8vo-flYOWP0Zgf7Ob05Ew~~/AAAAAQA~/RgRlfvkeP0TqaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0dGVyLmNvbS9WZXJhSm91cm92YS9zdGF0dXMvMTYwMzY4OTQ0MDcxMDM2OTI4MT9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD00JmVtYz1lZGl0X2RrXzIwMjIxMjE2Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTgwMzQyJm5sPWRlYWxib29rJnJlZ2lfaWQ9Mzg5ODUxNTEmcz0yMCZzZWdtZW50X2lkPTEyMDAxOCZ0PWRVUjlMNTEzMlRBcE1zWEhtcmtNUVEmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTM4YThiNWNmZTAxY2NjYzIwODcyNzlmYzNhZjQ1MjhlVwNueXRCCmOPHnScY43BOBZSFGdzY2htaWR0QG55dGltZXMuY29tWAQAAAAA) Friday morning.

Vera had better watch what she tweets, or she’ll get banned too.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/136 "2022-12-17T17:14:24Z")

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[https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ban-reverse-conditions/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/elon-musk-twitter-ban-reverse-conditions/index.html)

> “The people have spoken,” Musk wrote Friday night after his poll, pledging to restore the accounts he had falsely accused of sharing his “exact real-time” location.
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> But while the accounts were made publicly viewable on Saturday, the journalists were restricted from posting until they removed the tweets Musk had claimed violated Twitter’s rules.

I’m going to point out that I’m quoting the article, not editorializing on the presumed accuracy of Musk’s motivations behind the ban and the correction. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/137 "2022-12-17T18:00:20Z")

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So “free speech absolutism” means that you’re only allowed to speak if a majority of the people allow you to.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/138 "2022-12-17T19:24:38Z")

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Considering that journalists are one of the primary users of Twitter, maybe restricting their posting isn’t the best business plan.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/139 "2022-12-17T19:34:24Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> So “free speech absolutism” means that you’re only allowed to speak if a majority of the people allow you to.

We were mishearing him. He is a proponent of “free speech absolution“, where you have to beg forgiveness before you can speak. Easy to conflate.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-musk-bought-twitter-breaking-news-only/975737/140 "2022-12-18T21:08:49Z")

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> **[Twitter abruptly bans all links to Instagram, Mastodon, and other competitors](https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/18/23515221/twitter-bans-links-instagram-mastodon-competitors)**
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> Twitter will only allow the paid promotion of other platforms.

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