# Now that Natalie Portman's off the list...

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 25, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971 "2007-10-25T15:28:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/61 "2007-10-26T19:30:58Z")

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[QUOTE=SNenc]

Has Rose MacGowan ever gone topless on-screen?  
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IIRC she does in some crapfest called The Doom Generation.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/62 "2007-10-26T19:33:45Z")

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Portman’s been playing the nudity game for too many years. There was always talk about how she might do a nude scene in her upcoming movie but it never happened. So her onscreen nudity was a big topic because she made it so. Jessica Alba’s now playing the same game and, like Portman, will probably do a nude scene at some point and then act all shocked because her nude scene gets more attention than the rest of the movie it’s in.

I think the honest thing for any actress to do is make a decision early in her career on whether or not she’s willing to appear nude. And if she is, she should go ahead and do it. That way those people who want to see her nipples or her ass can see them and for the rest of her movies she’ll be judged by her acting talent. And if she decides not to appear nude, she should just drop the subject and not hint that she almost did a nude scene or might appear nude next time.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/63 "2007-10-26T19:39:29Z")

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And speaking of Rose McGowan, another person who picked a really weird film to strip for is Jodie Foster who IIRC (excluding the rape film) has only shown skin in some straight to cable shitfest called Catchfire, or Backtrack, or something else, depending on which copy of the video you buy, apparently. If you like Jodie Foster, though, it has a pretty decent shower scene for no apparent reason.

And no, that was supposedly her older sister in Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane.

And they’re adding Natalie Portman’s nude scene as a “bonus” with the film, \*after \* she expressed remorse for doing it? That’s kind of shitty isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/64 "2007-10-26T19:45:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
And speaking of Rose McGowan, another person who picked a really weird film to strip for is Jodie Foster who IIRC (excluding the rape film) has only shown skin in some straight to cable shitfest called Catchfire, or Backtrack, or something else, depending on which copy of the video you buy, apparently. If you like Jodie Foster, though, it has a pretty decent shower scene for no apparent reason.  
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She was naked in _Nell_. That isn’t the ‘rape film’ is it?

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/65 "2007-10-26T19:49:28Z")

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[QUOTE=kidchameleon]  
She was naked in _Nell_. That isn’t the ‘rape film’ is it?  
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I didn’t know that, but in my defense I would sort of discount that due to the nature of her character in the film- I can’t imagine even the most hardcore fan beating off to Nell 🙂

And no, The Accused is the rape film I was referring to.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/66 "2007-10-26T20:40:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
And they’re adding Natalie Portman’s nude scene as a “bonus” with the film, \*after \* she expressed remorse for doing it? That’s kind of shitty isn’t it?  
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The short film is already readily available on the Internet (and not just underground websites). Wes Anderson can do what he wants with the film–it is his, after all. And the short is actually a prologue (of sorts) to _Darjeeling_–both she and Jason Shwartzman play the same characters in both and their story continues from one to the other (though she has nothing more than a brief cameo in the latter). When I say _DL_, there was a clip that said “Insert Short Here” and showed a brief clip from the short along with the website where you could watch the whole thing.

So she may regret having made her choice, but that horse has left the barn and she can’t reasonably expect Anderson to just pull the film out of viewing circulation for her (not that she’s remotely suggested he should, mind you).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/67 "2007-10-26T20:43:26Z")

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> And no, The Accused is the rape film I was referring to.

Or, as Joy once called it on _My Name Is Earl_, “that porno movie that Jodie Foster made”.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/68 "2007-10-26T20:51:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
Or, as Joy once called it on _My Name Is Earl_, “that porno movie that Jodie Foster made”.  
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That’s funny! 🙂 I may have to give that show a watch now…

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/69 "2007-10-26T20:57:37Z")

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And speaking of Jamie Pressly- she has to have had at some point- anyone know where?

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/70 "2007-10-26T21:15:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
And speaking of Jamie Pressly- she has to have had at some point- anyone know where?  
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[Poison Ivy: The New Seduction](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119908/). It’s basically “that porno that Joy made”. And she’s appeared once or twice in Playboy, and some other mags. Hell, just google her name when you’ve got a free evening.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/71 "2007-10-26T21:16:03Z")

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Well Poison Ivy 3 of course and I believe she was naked in Not Another Teen Movie too, but I might be misremembering.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/72 "2007-10-26T21:34:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
Well Poison Ivy 3 of course and I believe she was naked in Not Another Teen Movie too, but I might be misremembering.  
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No, I’ve seen NATM and would’ve remembered 🙂 There’s some other unnamed actress in it whose whole thing is she Eurpoean (like the American Pie girl) and thus is a nudist who is nude at school, etc. as all Eurpoean girls are I guess.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/73 "2007-10-27T02:47:23Z")

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> Well Poison Ivy 3 of course and I believe she was naked in Not Another Teen Movie too, but I might be misremembering.

Actually, you saw Jaime Pressly nude in the original _Poison Ivy_ and didn’t know it. She was Drew Barrymore’s body double, which was what later got her the onscreen lead in the third movie.

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> There’s some other unnamed actress in it whose whole thing is she Eurpoean (like the American Pie girl) and thus is a nudist who is nude at school, etc. as all Eurpoean girls are I guess.

That’s Cerina Vincent (who also came up with the joke about having a see-through plastic handbag).

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**Author:** ![Burrido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Burrido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burrido)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/74 "2007-10-27T02:54:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
Lacey Chebert  
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Good luck, apparently she’s a devout Christian.

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**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/75 "2007-10-27T04:26:34Z")

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+1 Elisha Cuthbert.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/76 "2007-10-27T04:54:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Little Nemo]  
Jessica Alba’s now playing the same game and, like Portman, will probably do a nude scene at some point and then act all shocked because her nude scene gets more attention than the rest of the movie it’s in.  
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I’m not sure Jessica Alba is doing the same thing. She’s always said she won’t be nude on screen because she doesn’t want her grandma to see. It’s not some strange “maybe I will, maybe I won’t” game like Portman’s playing. I think Jessica Alba is telling the truth when it comes to her reasons.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/77 "2007-10-27T15:10:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey]  
I’m not sure Jessica Alba is doing the same thing. She’s always said she won’t be nude on screen because she doesn’t want her grandma to see. It’s not some strange “maybe I will, maybe I won’t” game like Portman’s playing. I think Jessica Alba is telling the truth when it comes to her reasons.  
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How’s her grandmother’s health?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/78 "2007-10-27T16:09:21Z")

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[QUOTE=SNenc]  
Scarlett is the Holy Grail of on-screen nudity. She actually _wanted_ to go topless for a scene in The Island, but Michael F’ing Bay wouldn’t let her.  
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[No she didn’t](http://www.esquire.com/women/the-sexiest-woman-alive/ESQ1106MYSTWOMAN_136):

\*Or there’s the story of her demanding to be naked on the set of Michael Bay’s The Island. Bay – who in his own DVD commentary calls Scarlett a “pain in the ass to work with, but I mean that in the best way” – says he went to her trailer because she wouldn’t come out. “Scarlett said, ‘I’m not wearing this [bleeping] bra. I’m not wearing this [bleeping] ghetto-ass [bleeping] bra… I’m going naked.’ I’m like, ‘Scarlett, you can’t go naked. This is PG-13.’”

Scarlett shakes her head: “That story’s been twisted and turned. They wanted to make me wear this bra when I woke up in the morning. And I was like, Why don’t they just have a sheet draped over me? Nobody sleeps in bras, except maybe French women”.

Not that she’s opposed to nudity – as long as it’s on her own terms. For instance, the Vanity Fair cover. “It was surprisingly comfortable,” she says, biting on edamame. Though she and Keira Knightley were originally going to wear thongs, she says the stylist snipped them off. “Everyone was so busy working or loading film. Here I am, Keira and I, and we’re totally naked, and some guy is on his BlackBerry. But I guess it’s better than if they were all looking at me.” \*

> [@Burrido](#):
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> Good luck, apparently [Lacey Chabert]'s a devout Christian.

[Onward christian soldier.](http://www.maximonline.com/Laceychabert/girls_of_maxim/173.aspx)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/79 "2007-10-27T16:24:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
[No she didn’t](http://www.esquire.com/women/the-sexiest-woman-alive/ESQ1106MYSTWOMAN_136):

\*Or there’s the story of her demanding to be naked on the set of Michael Bay’s The Island. Bay – who in his own DVD commentary calls Scarlett a “pain in the ass to work with, but I mean that in the best way” – says he went to her trailer because she wouldn’t come out. “Scarlett said, ‘I’m not wearing this [bleeping] bra. I’m not wearing this [bleeping] ghetto-ass [bleeping] bra… I’m going naked.’ I’m like, ‘Scarlett, you can’t go naked. This is PG-13.’”  
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That story never made sense anyway. If moviemakers can shoot around a flesh colored bra for a PG-13 they can shoot around naked skin.

[QUOTE=Ellis Dee]  
[Onward christian soldier.](http://www.maximonline.com/Laceychabert/girls_of_maxim/173.aspx)  
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That is like the tamest Maxim spread ever.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-natalie-portmans-off-the-list/423971/80 "2007-10-27T17:41:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Wile E]  
When they’re that small they can only be perky.  
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Not really. See Jodie Foster in “Nell” for confirmation, I think “fried egg” is the term for the condition.

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