# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/181 "2010-04-11T12:09:18Z")

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Bert and Ernie, come on now it’s time to admit it.

OK do you realize Bert is always telling Ernie to “Clean up his room.” OK Ernie lives in a flat with another man and HE HAS HIS OWN ROOM!!! Yet he chooses to share a bedroom with Bert. OK it’s seperate beds but we probably just don’t see the times they push the beds together.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/182 "2010-04-11T12:27:29Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I always get a good LOL out of that. When I first joined the military I thought the same thing. So wrong I was. Now, if you work someplace with only five other people, chances are good none of them are gay, but the larger the org, the more gays there probably are and if you aren’t seeing them, that says a lot about the culture of your workplace. Or your attitude.

I’ve had a lot of jobs over the years- a lot. Everything from retail management to working in fast food to supermarkets to professional admin positions. And I stand by my assertion that I can count the number of gay coworkers I’ve had on one hand.

Talking about people’s sexuality isn’t a big topic of conversation at work (for obvious reasons) but when _every one_ of your coworkers talks about their opposite sex partner (many of whom you’ve met personally) or their (corroborated) stories about searching for an opposite sex partner, it’s a pretty safe bet your co-workers aren’t gay.

Even if they were, it’s not like there’s anything wrong with it. But I honestly believe that that there are simply not as many gay people in the real world as some of the activists would like to think there are.

> [@not\_alice](#):
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> So, do you see the problem with the Australian censorship regime now? How can you be sure of _anything_ you have read once it passes through your censors?

What on Earth are you talking about??? 😕

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/183 "2010-04-11T13:12:34Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> Even if they were, it’s not like there’s anything wrong with it. But I honestly believe that that there are simply not as many gay people in the real world as some of the activists would like to think there are.

What activists, and what numbers are they throwing out? I’d toss out the high and low numbers, and I don’t think anyone yet has come up with a way to ever know for sure.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/184 "2010-04-11T14:46:46Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> What activists, and what numbers are they throwing out? I’d toss out the high and low numbers, and I don’t think anyone yet has come up with a way to ever know for sure.

The LGBT crowd at Uni and on the boards here often mention figures in the 10-15% of the population range. My personal feeling is that it’s probably closer to 3-5%.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/185 "2010-04-11T16:45:19Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> The LGBT crowd at Uni and on the boards here often mention figures in the 10-15% of the population range. My personal feeling is that it’s probably closer to 3-5%.

The 10% number is from the Kinsey sexuality study back in the 40s and 50s. It has since been widely discredited (even most gay activist groups only cite numbers between 3 and 5%).

So congratulations, you’re right and the people throwing around numbers are right too.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/186 "2010-04-11T16:58:45Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> When I lived on Crescent Heights Blvd. at the corner of Fountain in West Hollywood, there was a guy who lived two doors down in a small apartment building (two or three units) and we would always nod and say hello whenever we would see each other on the street. It wasn’t until Pulp Fiction came out that I saw on television an interview and a guy was introduced as Quentin Tarantino, director of Pulp Fiction and I thought, “OMG, that is the guy from two doors down!”  
> Sure enough - Quentin had been my neighbor for all those years.  
> However, during that time I would ALWAYS see him with some new female friend - getting out of a taxi or just go out to the car. I don’t think I ever saw him with another guy.  
> So no - I have no inside scoop other than to say if he really were Gay - and he lived next to me in the heart of Gay West Hollywood - I would think I might have seen him with a guy at least once over the years. He continued to live in that small apartment for several years, even with his fame and money - but still, would only see limos pull up and Quentin and some lovely young lass entering or exiting the limo from/to the apartment. Just my casual observation, but I seriously doubt he is Gay.

Quentin was able to get a date… a lot of dates?.. before he was famous? Wow. I though that was the whole reason he became famous. Because he is about as sexually unappealing as it gets. Between the hyper personality, the geekitude, and his overall Frankensteinian looks… can’t see it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/187 "2010-04-11T17:32:06Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Quentin was able to get a date… a lot of dates?.. before he was famous? Wow. I though that was the whole reason he became famous. Because he is about as sexually unappealing as it gets. Between the hyper personality, the geekitude, and his overall Frankensteinian looks… can’t see it.

They were smart chicks investing in futures…?

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/188 "2010-04-11T17:35:12Z")

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> [@Stoid](#):
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> Quentin was able to get a date… a lot of dates?.. before he was famous? Wow. I though that was the whole reason he became famous. Because he is about as sexually unappealing as it gets. Between the hyper personality, the geekitude, and his overall Frankensteinian looks… can’t see it.

Yeah, I know. When I used to see him (before I knew who he was) I remember thinking how odd looking he was - he especially stuck out like a sore thumb in “pretty boy” West Hollywood. But he was always friendly and gave a smile and a nod. Don’t think we ever exchanged more than a “hi” whenever we would pass each other on the sidewalk.  
And yes, he really did always seem to have some decent looking woman next to him, even before he got famous - what can I say; maybe he has some other “asset” other than his looks that attracted the ladies?

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/189 "2010-04-11T18:26:21Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> And yes, he really did always seem to have some decent looking woman next to him, even before he got famous - what can I say; maybe he has some other “asset” other than his looks that attracted the ladies?

You mean, like, a great stamp collection?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/190 "2010-04-11T18:31:27Z")

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I guess I’m really out of the loop, but what is it with Anderson Cooper? Why does everyone think he’s gay?

What about that guy on that entertainment show in the evenings? Mario what’s-his-name. Or is he already out?

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/191 "2010-04-11T22:21:07Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I guess I’m really out of the loop, but what is it with Anderson Cooper? Why does everyone think he’s gay?
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> What about that guy on that entertainment show in the evenings? Mario what’s-his-name. Or is he already out?

Anderson Cooper is 43, beyond rich, never been married, never linked with any women, doesn’t parade around town with arm candy, “refuses to discuss his personal life”, and has been spotted in discreet gay bars. He doesn’t feel he has to make a BFD announcement to the world, but just lives his life without comment… Mario Lopez has been married to Ali Landry (?) and last month he announced he and his girlfriend are expecting a baby, so I HOPE he isn’t ‘already out’. But he is a beautiful specimen and I wouldn’t doubt he gets hit on by men and women hopefuls all the time.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/192 "2010-04-11T22:29:07Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Anderson Cooper is 43, beyond rich, never been married, never linked with any women, doesn’t parade around town with arm candy, “refuses to discuss his personal life”, and has been spotted in discreet gay bars.

Well, that last bit would pretty much be a wrap.

I have to wonder why these famous guys who want to stay in the closet go to gay bars.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/193 "2010-04-11T22:46:33Z")

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Still wondering why there’s no juice to gossiping that someone with an opposite-sex partner may actually be bi.

I’m going to assume that, since both gays and straights tend to be squicked by bis, such rumors wouldn’t sell ad space, so they don’t happen.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/194 "2010-04-12T01:50:24Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, that last bit would pretty much be a wrap.
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> I have to wonder why these famous guys who want to stay in the closet go to gay bars.

(sigh) If you are referring to Anderson Cooper, HE IS NOT IN THE CLOSET. He is living his life, including going to gay bars. He is not cowering in the closet, he is not braying about his sex life to the world, and if anybody should demand to know which way he swings, his answer is “I don’t discuss my personal life”.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/195 "2010-04-12T02:07:41Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> (sigh) If you are referring to Anderson Cooper, HE IS NOT IN THE CLOSET. He is living his life, including going to gay bars. He is not cowering in the closet, he is not braying about his sex life to the world, and if anybody should demand to know which way he swings, his answer is “I don’t discuss my personal life”.

Anderson, is that you? Call me!

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/196 "2010-04-12T02:45:39Z")

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Oprah or course.

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**Author:** ![myriad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@myriad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myriad)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/197 "2010-04-12T04:49:19Z")

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> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#):
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> Was the cousin a man or a woman???

dont know if you’re being facetious (?) or I guess I wasn’t really that clear.

Yes, he was MALE. So… --?? who knows, maybe he’s BI and I’m just very naive and people with expanded brain capacity (thetans??) have no “limits” and experience things in a much broader sense.

Really..who am I to guess~

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/198 "2010-04-12T07:34:53Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Anderson, is that you? Call me!

Hands off, bitch! He’s mine! (You should see the way he looks at me when he’s sending me coded messages on his show.)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/199 "2010-04-13T03:19:02Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Does anybody know if MadTV’s Michael McDonald is gay or straight? I’ve never read anything about his private life but assume he’s gay since **he’s 45, never married** …

(Emphasis mine.)

So there’s a deadline here?

Though it does make me wonder: what percentage of straight men find someone they want to marry (and who wants to marry them) by, say, 45? How does that jive with people’s assumptions about how many do (and thus, begin to suspect, well, you know)?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/200 "2010-04-13T04:46:23Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> (Emphasis mine.)
> 
> So there’s a deadline here?
> 
> Though it does make me wonder: what percentage of straight men find someone they want to marry (and who wants to marry them) by, say, 45? How does that jive with people’s assumptions about how many do (and thus, begin to suspect, well, you know)?

No deadline, but combined with picking up men in gay bars it is indicative of gayness.

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