# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/261 "2010-07-30T07:14:20Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> > [@descamisado](#):
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> > [Sara Gilbert](http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/roseanne-star-sara-gilbert-comes-out-1564180.story?gt1=28135) just came out.
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> > For all of you who were still wondering.
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> I thought she came out a while ago. I think it’s been common knowledge for a long time now.

Yeah, when you announce to the world that you and your female partner are each getting artificially inseminated so you can start a family together, it kinda counts as “coming out.”

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/262 "2010-07-30T08:33:58Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Yeah, when you announce to the world that you and your female partner are each getting artificially inseminated so you can start a family together, it kinda counts as “coming out.”

Except she never announced that, per se. It was known, but never because she (or her partner, Allison Adler, who is the executive producer and a co-writer on the show “Chuck”) made a specific release about it to the media.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/263 "2010-07-30T08:37:18Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> > [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> > Yeah, when you announce to the world that you and your female partner are each getting artificially inseminated so you can start a family together, it kinda counts as “coming out.”
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> Except she never announced that, per se. It was known, but never because she (or her partner, Allison Adler, who is the executive producer and a co-writer on the show “Chuck”) made a specific release about it to the media.

She didn’t so much just come out. She just wasn’t in.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/264 "2010-07-30T11:49:57Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> > [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> > Yeah, when you announce to the world that you and your female partner are each getting artificially inseminated so you can start a family together, it kinda counts as “coming out.”
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> Except she never announced that, per se. It was known, but never because she (or her partner, Allison Adler, who is the executive producer and a co-writer on the show “Chuck”) made a specific release about it to the media.

Talking about it in multiple interviews does count as announcing it. Hell, _Roseanne_ has talked about Sara Gilbert being a lesbian before and how she came out to her co-workers back when she was a teen.

You can’t come out if you’re never in.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/265 "2010-07-30T12:08:42Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> > [@panache45](#):
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> > > [@Sampiro](#):
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> > > Anyone know the straight or not-straight dope on Seth Meyers from SNL?
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> > For what it’s worth, my gaydar jumps into the red zone when I see him (and yes, my pulse quickens as well).
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> Why exactly?

If you’re thinking this is some sort of rational thinking on my part . . . gaydar doesn’t work that way.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/266 "2010-07-30T12:14:00Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hey, if gay people don’t like it here they can go back to where they came from.

What an orgy that would make for 😃

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/267 "2010-07-30T14:11:53Z")

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I wonder if there’s any truth to the rumors that Johnny Galecki was the sperm donor. (Certainly it’s the only way his sperm would ever get inside her.)

[Picture of her/her partner/the kinder.](http://knockedupcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/saragilbert_a.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/268 "2011-09-29T20:56:29Z")

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BUMP

Pardon the zombification, but the subject isn’t a big enough star to warrant his own thread and if there are responses they usually go towards other gay actors anyway:  
Sean Maher, best known as Dr. Simon Tam on _Firefly_ and now on _Playboy Club_, has [officially come out](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/playboy-clubs-sean-maher-comes-240154). He’s been in a relationship with his partner for 9 years and they have two kids. I knew the gay rumors about him before I knew who he was.

And he’s so fine…

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/269 "2011-09-29T22:18:53Z")

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I think it’s really sad that a man who has a partner of nine years, and is dedicated enough to them to have two children with them, is ashamed enough of his sexuality to hide it for this long.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/270 "2011-09-29T23:05:39Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Sean Maher, best known as Dr. Simon Tam on _Firefly_ and now on _Playboy Club_, has [officially come out](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/playboy-clubs-sean-maher-comes-240154). He’s been in a relationship with his partner for 9 years and they have two kids. I knew the gay rumors about him before I knew who he was.

Sean Maher still acts?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/271 "2011-09-30T03:21:44Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Sean Maher still acts?

Yep. In fact he currently plays a closeted gay man married to a Playboy Bunny.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/272 "2011-09-30T06:52:50Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> I think it’s really sad that a man who has a partner of nine years, and is dedicated enough to them to have two children with them, is ashamed enough of his sexuality to hide it for this long.

I suspect it has a hell of a lot more to do with fear than shame.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/273 "2011-09-30T06:55:09Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I suspect it has a hell of a lot more to do with fear than shame.

Same difference - if you’re secure in your sexuality you don’t need to be afraid.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/274 "2011-09-30T07:00:57Z")

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Was he hiding, though? Is it hiding if no one asks?

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/275 "2011-09-30T07:19:24Z")

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When they said he was straight 14 years ago he didn’t correct them.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/276 "2011-09-30T11:04:45Z")

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The problem is not being insecure in your sexuality, it’s being insecure in your job, your family life (the one you were born into, not the one you made), etc.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/277 "2011-09-30T12:48:05Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> Same difference - if you’re secure in your sexuality you don’t need to be afraid.

Sean Maher was out in college but then started an acting career. His agent told him to keep his mouth shut & be seen out on dates with girls. So he kept his orientation secret until the time was right.

I read about his coming out on Whedonesque; it wasn’t a deep, dark secret to his friends from _Firefly_ & the fans posting were full of support. But there was a link to the Entertainment Tonight story that broke the news; lots of homophobic trolls posted over there…

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/278 "2011-09-30T14:00:05Z")

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[quote=“Markxxx, post:266, topic:534272”]

^ I’d been wondering where he went. How did I miss his banning?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/279 "2011-09-30T14:57:41Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> The problem is not being insecure in your sexuality, it’s being insecure in your job, your family life (the one you were born into, not the one you made), etc.

Exactly. I can even understand his agent and manager’s points; to this day openly gay actors don’t become A-List leading men, and with Maher’s looks he was a conceivable contender for A-List status.

I was surprised when he said in the interview he had actually slept with women during his ‘confused and closeted’ acting years. That’s carrying the ruse a tad far.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/280 "2011-09-30T15:13:04Z")

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[QUOTE=not what you’d expect]

^ I’d been wondering where he went. How did I miss his banning?  
[/QUOTE]

It was pretty low key. As I recall he was linking to original cartoons that he was also possibly trying to sell for money, or something like that. When confronted he wouldn’t respond, and so he was granted _persona non grata_ status.

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