# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/401 "2012-06-07T06:16:42Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> [Jonathan Knight](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Knight) is out, these days… though he claimed never to be “in”… (Whatever, pin-up boy!)

Oh no! A New Kid on the Block is… 43! I feel so old.😛 Maybe it’s time to change the name of the group.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/402 "2012-06-07T14:41:26Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> [Jonathan Knight](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Knight) is out, these days… though he claimed never to be “in”… (Whatever, pin-up boy!)

I’d thought it would be his younger brother Jordan, or Joey, but both of them seem to have had marriage and plenty of kids, so not so likely anymore.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/403 "2012-07-02T23:36:06Z")

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We can cross [Anderson Cooper](http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/07/anderson-cooper-the-fact-is-im-gay.html) off the list.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/404 "2012-07-03T17:48:50Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> We can cross [Anderson Cooper](http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/07/anderson-cooper-the-fact-is-im-gay.html) off the list.

Cool. He makes a good point. Traveling to some of the war zones as he does, why on earth would he want to be The Gay American Reporter. That’s a death sentence in some places.

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**Author:** ![Tyger\_Flynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Tyger\_Flynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyger_Flynn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/405 "2012-09-18T04:27:08Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Cool. He makes a good point. Traveling to some of the war zones as he does, why on earth would he want to be The Gay American Reporter. That’s a death sentence in some places.

In fact he had that happen in the Middle East in the last year - I think it was during one of the Arab Spring situations - he was pulled out of his car - in Egypt or some place like that - very scary.

But I’m wondering: a friend and I were having a discussion about Princes William and Harry of Britain. Some disagreement - William too ghey to be gay, but Harry? What does anyone think - he’s not out, of course, but is he?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/406 "2012-09-18T05:04:59Z")

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> [@Tyger\_Flynn](#):
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> But I’m wondering: a friend and I were having a discussion about Princes William and Harry of Britain. Some disagreement - William too ghey to be gay, but Harry? What does anyone think - he’s not out, of course, but is he?

Both of them are doing it VERY wrong if they are. I know it’s just rumor mill gossip, but Harry has supposedly bedded enough women to challenge Wilt Chamberlain.

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**Author:** ![Tyger\_Flynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Tyger\_Flynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyger_Flynn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/407 "2012-09-18T05:21:28Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Both of them are doing it VERY wrong if they are. I know it’s just rumor mill gossip, but Harry has supposedly bedded enough women to challenge Wilt Chamberlain.

But does he swing both ways? This is the disagreement - I think he does, or has the potential - but then, I didn’t know what you just said. So…guess not. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/408 "2012-09-18T05:29:50Z")

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> [@Tyger\_Flynn](#):
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> But does he swing both ways? This is the disagreement - I think he does, or has the potential - but then, I didn’t know what you just said. So…guess not. 🙂

Wilt Chamberlain was a basketball player from the 60s who claimed to have had sex with over 10,000 women. And everyone believed him.

Harry’s sexual prowess is all rumor and hearsay at this point, but if he told the world one day that he had sex with 1000s of women, would anyone doubt him?

As for him swinging both ways, who knows? Personally, I doubt it, but who knows?

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**Author:** ![Tyger\_Flynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Tyger\_Flynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyger_Flynn)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/409 "2012-09-18T05:44:29Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Wilt Chamberlain was a basketball player from the 60s who claimed to have had sex with over 10,000 women. And everyone believed him.
> 
> Harry’s sexual prowess is all rumor and hearsay at this point, but if he told the world one day that he had sex with 1000s of women, would anyone doubt him?
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> As for him swinging both ways, who knows? Personally, I doubt it, but who knows?

Thank you! 😃

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/410 "2012-09-18T09:25:40Z")

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In fact, he claimed to have had sex with over 20,000 women:

> **[Wilt Chamberlain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Wilt_Chamberlain)**
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> Wilton Norman Chamberlain (/ˈtʃeɪmbərlɪn/ CHAYM-bər-lin; August 21, 1936 – October 12, 1999) was an American professional basketball player. Standing 7 ft 1 in (2.16 m) tall, he played center in the National Basketball Association (NBA) for 14 seasons and is widely regarded as one of the sport's greatest players. Chamberlain was enshrined in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1978 and elected to the NBA's 35th, 50th, and 75th anniversary teams. Following his professional basket...

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/411 "2012-09-18T12:24:03Z")

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Please excuse me for being so dense … but … Ricky who?

Ricky Martin? Or Ricky Gervaise?

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/412 "2012-09-18T12:29:07Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> Please excuse me for being so dense … but … Ricky who?
> 
> Ricky Martin? Or Ricky Gervaise?

Ricky the “English indie rock band, led by the harmonising singer-songwriter trio of Jim Lines, Guy Gyngell and Darren Richardson.” _duh_

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/413 "2012-09-18T15:57:44Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> Please excuse me for being so dense … but … Ricky who?
> 
> Ricky Martin? Or Ricky Gervaise?

I think this thread was started right after Ricky Martin came out and everybody said, “Well, _duh_.”

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/414 "2012-09-18T17:33:39Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> Please excuse me for being so dense … but … Ricky who?
> 
> Ricky Martin? Or Ricky Gervaise?

Ricky Ricardo.

When you shake your hips while singing “Babalu!”, people begin to wonder.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/415 "2012-09-18T19:24:46Z")

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OMG!

This place is so strange.

I can’t believe that so many people have enjoyed posting a reply to my silly question about whether the title of this thread applied to Ricky Martin or Ricky Gervaise.

I will readily admit that it may be viewed as a stupid question. But I still am not certain about that. I guess it must be pretty obvious that it was Ricky Martin. But I never paid much attention to the date of the OP and so I just didn’t know. I foolishly assumed the thread was started recently which would mean it was not at all obvious that it was about Ricky Martin. However, I am willing to take my lumps for failing to pay attention to the date that the thread was started.

But, here is my problem:

I have started several threads and made several posts that I assumed would get a fair number of replies and I have been so wrong, so often, that I have come to realize I am just no damn good at predicting these things.

But, I just recently started a thread in this forum (Cafe Society) that invited people to predict how the characters in the sitcom “The Office” would wind up at the end of the show according to the Laws of Karma.

I thought that would be a real fun thread and that people would love to make predictions as to how the various character would end up and why they would end up in that way. But, I was so wrong! It has yet to get a single reply.

And this stupid question I asked here in this thread, got a whole bunch of replies. Damn! I just can’t figure this out.

I can’t blame anyone because my assumptions are foolish and wrong. And yet, it really does bother me. It’s like having a burr stuck under my saddle - or whatever the expression is that indicates people are really annoyed.

Anyway, as I said, I cannot be terribly annoyed with any of you. It’s obviously not your fault. It’s clearly my own fault. And yet, here we are. I guess I’m just a real big dummy. What is there to do?

I wish I could say a bunch of “Hail Marys” and “Our Fathers” and be forgiven. But I yam not Catholic and I have no idea how dose tings work.

I guess my only option is to grin and bear it.

Grin.

Boo Hoo.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/416 "2012-09-19T01:51:57Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> And this stupid question I asked here in this thread, got a whole bunch of replies. Damn! I just can’t figure this out.\</snip\>

Happens all the time.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/417 "2012-09-19T04:55:57Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> OMG!
> 
> This place is so strange.
> 
> I can’t believe that so many people have enjoyed posting a reply to my silly question about whether the title of this thread applied to Ricky Martin or Ricky Gervaise.
> 
> I will readily admit that it may be viewed as a stupid question. But I still am not certain about that. I guess it must be pretty obvious that it was Ricky Martin. But I never paid much attention to the date of the OP and so I just didn’t know. I foolishly assumed the thread was started recently which would mean it was not at all obvious that it was about Ricky Martin. However, I am willing to take my lumps for failing to pay attention to the date that the thread was started.
> 
> But, here is my problem:
> 
> I have started several threads and made several posts that I assumed would get a fair number of replies and I have been so wrong, so often, that I have come to realize I am just no damn good at predicting these things.
> 
> But, I just recently started a thread in this forum (Cafe Society) that invited people to predict how the characters in the sitcom “The Office” would wind up at the end of the show according to the Laws of Karma.
> 
> I thought that would be a real fun thread and that people would love to make predictions as to how the various character would end up and why they would end up in that way. But, I was so wrong! It has yet to get a single reply.
> 
> And this stupid question I asked here in this thread, got a whole bunch of replies. Damn! I just can’t figure this out.
> 
> I can’t blame anyone because my assumptions are foolish and wrong. And yet, it really does bother me. It’s like having a burr stuck under my saddle - or whatever the expression is that indicates people are really annoyed.
> 
> Anyway, as I said, I cannot be terribly annoyed with any of you. It’s obviously not your fault. It’s clearly my own fault. And yet, here we are. I guess I’m just a real big dummy. What is there to do?
> 
> I wish I could say a bunch of “Hail Marys” and “Our Fathers” and be forgiven. But I yam not Catholic and I have no idea how dose tings work.
> 
> I guess my only option is to grin and bear it.
> 
> Grin.
> 
> Boo Hoo.

I’ve been here for more than 10 years and 20+ thousand posts, and a solid third of the threads I start get no responses at all. Most of the rest get less than a dozen.

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**Author:** ![schy0007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@schy0007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schy0007)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/418 "2012-09-19T05:05:18Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Free love on the free love highway?

Something like that.

Its a time of love.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/419 "2013-08-22T16:57:41Z")

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Did we know about Wentworth Miller? [He just came out](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wentworth-miller-gay/story?id=20034348) in protest of Russia’s anti-gay fascism.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/420 "2013-08-22T17:25:30Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Did we know about Wentworth Miller? [He just came out](http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wentworth-miller-gay/story?id=20034348) in protest of Russia’s anti-gay fascism.

Miller was basically the male Jodie Foster. “Everyone knew” he was gay, but he didn’t come out until now.

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