# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/421 "2013-08-22T17:42:20Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Ricky Ricardo.
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> When you shake your hips while singing “Babalu!”, people begin to wonder.

“You got some 'splainin to do!”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/422 "2013-08-22T17:45:04Z")

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So who does that leave in terms of “everybody knows but they haven’t confirmed”? That used to be a much longer list (Jodie Foster, Anderson Cooper, Sean Hayes, Zachary Quinto, Sean Maher, David Hyde Pierce, Wanda Sykes, etc.), but now I can only really think of Kevin Spacey and Queen Latifah.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/423 "2013-08-22T18:02:57Z")

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I thought Queen Latifah was definitely out. Heck, she’s got a talk show now-isn’t it a prerequisite? Anyway, add to your list the Scientology crew.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/424 "2013-08-22T18:33:40Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I thought Queen Latifah was definitely out. Heck, she’s got a talk show now-isn’t it a prerequisite? Anyway, add to your list the Scientology crew.

No, she’s apparently still saying her sex life is nobody’s business. Which might be a valid point when you’re a performer like a singer or an actress. But when you choose to have your own talk show and become a celebrity interviewer yourself, it seems a little thin. Latifah’s either going to be a softball host who doesn’t ask her guests anything that make them uncomfortable or she’s going to hypocritically apply a different standard to her guests than she wants for herself.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/425 "2013-08-22T18:39:16Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> So who does that leave in terms of “everybody knows but they haven’t confirmed”? That used to be a much longer list (Jodie Foster, Anderson Cooper, Sean Hayes, Zachary Quinto, Sean Maher, David Hyde Pierce, Wanda Sykes, etc.), but now I can only really think of Kevin Spacey and Queen Latifah.

The John Travolta rumors are still around.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/426 "2013-08-22T18:42:13Z")

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I liked the way George Clooney responded to a gay rumor. (Clooney is either a genuine heterosexual or is extremely committed to faking it with a string of women.) A magazine had said that Clooney is “gay gay gay” and Clooney responded “I’m only gay gay. The third gay is pushing it.”

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/427 "2013-08-22T18:47:05Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, she’s apparently still saying her sex life is nobody’s business. Which might be a valid point when you’re a performer like a singer or an actress. But when you choose to have your own talk show and become a celebrity interviewer yourself, it seems a little thin. Latifah’s either going to be a softball host who doesn’t ask her guests anything that make them uncomfortable or she’s going to hypocritically apply a different standard to her guests than she wants for herself.

Oh, no need to choose. Ahe can do both.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/428 "2013-08-22T19:01:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No, she’s apparently still saying her sex life is nobody’s business. Which might be a valid point when you’re a performer like a singer or an actress. But when you choose to have your own talk show and become a celebrity interviewer yourself, it seems a little thin. Latifah’s either going to be a softball host who doesn’t ask her guests anything that make them uncomfortable or she’s going to hypocritically apply a different standard to her guests than she wants for herself.

She’s also marshaled and performed at Gay Pride festivals, only to make a quick “I never said I’m gay! None of your business!” comment when referred to as lesbian. Though everyone I know who has met her (she’s in Atlanta quite a bit) says she very openly travels with her girlfriend, so at least she’s not in denial apparently.\*

To the “still in [if gay]” list, from the OP, Tyler Perry is still in (assuming he’s gay [safe assumption imho]).

And a WWE wrestler, [Darren Young](http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-wwe-wrestler-darren-young-gay-20130815,0,2132764.story#axzz2cj5fjkGs), came out quite casually the other day. Knowing next to nothing about wrestling I’ve no idea where he is career wise (i.e. if he’s a wrestling equivalent of A-List or Corey Feldman).

\*True, not every celebrity who has been involved in Gay Pride is gay- Elizabeth Montgomery was co-marshal of one in LA as a favor to her friend/TV husband Dick Sargent and Cyndi Lauper does them as a wave to her gay fans and because she has a lesbian sister- but, when there are rumors about you already it shouldn’t surprise you that people assume you’re gay when you let your name be used on a gay pride celebration.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/429 "2013-08-22T19:17:59Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> I thought Queen Latifah was definitely out. Heck, she’s got a talk show now-isn’t it a prerequisite?

Why does this make me laugh so much? I can just imagine Fox putting this in their contract. Must be gay. Hilarious.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/430 "2013-08-23T10:43:55Z")

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> [@GameHat](#):
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> Interesting. I just had this discussion with a co-worker today.
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> I’d argue Tom Cruise might have been gay before; these days he’s been so warped by Scientology that fuck, we might never know the real Tom Cruise.
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> Still, _Top Gun_ might be one of the “gayest” mainstream movies I’ve ever seen.

Maybe because of Kelly McGillis.

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**Author:** ![KelliHeath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a3d4f5/32.png) [@KelliHeath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KelliHeath)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/431 "2016-01-08T19:58:38Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Richard Simmons
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> Is he out?

Ha! I love it!

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/432 "2016-01-10T04:52:47Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I liked the way George Clooney responded to a gay rumor. (Clooney is either a genuine heterosexual or is extremely committed to faking it with a string of women.) A magazine had said that Clooney is “gay gay gay” and Clooney responded “I’m only gay gay. The third gay is pushing it.”

I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/433 "2016-01-10T17:17:28Z")

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> [@KelliHeath](#):
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> Ha! I love it!

Why? He has, unless things have changed in the 6 years since I posted, never commented on his sexuality.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/434 "2016-02-26T23:33:34Z")

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I update my Facebook page picture about 6 times an hour but haven’t posted a new one here in forever.

[Here’s me with Kristian “Hodor” Nairn this past Labor Day](https://www.flickr.com/photos/28949748@N06/25256709796/in/dateposted-public/).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/435 "2016-02-26T23:41:08Z")

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Oops- wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/436 "2016-02-27T00:01:00Z")

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Wait, are you outing Hodor? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/437 "2016-02-27T00:14:50Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> Wait, are you outing Hodor? 🙂

[Too late for that](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10690880/Game-of-Thrones-star-Hodor-comes-out-as-gay.html).

We talked about Oscar Wilde- that was cool. I told him he should play Wilde in his post prison life. (Like Nairn, Oscar was plump and gray haired and Anglo-Irish and he towered over most other people- wasn’t _as_ tall as Kristian but then people were shorter then.) He said it’s actually a lifelong dream to play Wilde.

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**Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/438 "2016-02-29T16:01:10Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> [Too late for that](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-of-thrones/10690880/Game-of-Thrones-star-Hodor-comes-out-as-gay.html).
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> We talked about Oscar Wilde- that was cool. I told him he should play Wilde in his post prison life. (Like Nairn, Oscar was plump and gray haired and Anglo-Irish and he towered over most other people- wasn’t _as_ tall as Kristian but then people were shorter then.) He said it’s actually a lifelong dream to play Wilde.

Huh, I had no idea. The Wilde is idea is neat, I’d love to see him stretch his wings, acting-wise.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/439 "2016-02-29T19:04:21Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I update my Facebook page picture about 6 times an hour but haven’t posted a new one here in forever.
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> [Here’s me with Kristian “Hodor” Nairn this past Labor Day](https://www.flickr.com/photos/28949748@N06/25256709796/in/dateposted-public/).

You so need a [smoking cap](https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=smoking+cap&safe=active&espv=2&biw=1680&bih=925&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMj-G11J3LAhXGGZQKHY-YCooQsAQILg)to go with that jacket.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/440 "2016-02-29T23:25:09Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> You so need a [smoking cap](https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=smoking+cap&safe=active&espv=2&biw=1680&bih=925&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMj-G11J3LAhXGGZQKHY-YCooQsAQILg)to go with that jacket.

I’m afraid that would make it stand out.

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