# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain?

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**Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/61 "2010-03-30T17:32:59Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Actors I’ve wondered about but obviously have no evidence for one way or another:
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> John Cusack
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> Jeffrey Donovan (_Burn Notice_)
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> John Malkovich (has kids and all but just pings my gaydar- which I realize has nothing to do with evidence)
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> Matthew McConaughey (has lots of gorgeous she-dates but…)
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> Billy Zane (twice married, but again- pings)

Hmmm. See, I think you’re falling into the “if you’re past forty and not married, You Must Be Gay” trap here.

Ah, but what the heck do I know?

Tom Cruise just doesn’t seem to be comfortable with himself in some way – that’s what makes me wonder, in his case.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/62 "2010-03-30T17:35:01Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Haven’t you seen Sweatin’ to the Oldies volumes 1, 2 and 4?
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> I don’t know if Tom Cruise is gay so much as he is asexual and creepy. He has no discernible interest in women…

Well, except for, you know, dating them, and marrying three of them.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/63 "2010-03-30T18:03:53Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> So is Seth MacFarlane but there’s no evidence that he’s gay.

Well, yes… but it was my understanding that Quinto’s sexuality is pretty much an open secret.

Seriously, his role on So NoTORIous as the flamboyant gay BFF was awfully convincing if he isn’t gay… I mean, he made Sean Hayes as Jack McFarland look butch, and Hayes finally came out a few months ago.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/64 "2010-03-30T18:20:55Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> I hear Cuba Gooding jr and Matthew Broaderick (not together, though…or, well, y’never know) are closeted. I don’t know if I believe that, though.

Can’t speak for Matthew Broderick, but I’ve been at multiple events with Cuba Gooding, Jr., and he’s about as heterosexual as they come. He’ll nail anything with a slit in the front and a pulse…

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/65 "2010-03-30T18:36:44Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Well, except for, you know, dating them, and marrying three of them.

Sure, if you wanna go rummaging through all the minute details…

Still, he’s creepy enough and asexual-seeming enough that there are constant jokes about Kate Holmes being brainwashed and imprisoned, and their marriage being loveless.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/66 "2010-03-30T19:10:47Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I keep hearing over and over again that Kevin Spacey is gay, and wouldn’t be surprised if he came out, but I think a lot of people would be since he doesn’t fit the RickyMartin-esque, flamboyant stereotype. Gay or not, I would still totally bone Kevin Spacey.

I think Spacey’s probably bi. I’ve read accounts of women who’ve slept with him in addition to all the weird “getting his phone stolen walking his dog at 2am through a known gay cruising area” stories. I seem to remember hearing that he & Emily Blunt had a thing once? Though if you’ve ever read about his childhood, it was fucking bizarre so who knows what’s really going on in his head.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/67 "2010-03-30T19:39:29Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Well, except for, you know, dating them, and marrying three of them.

His first wife made a famously strange statement about him- I can’t remember the exact phrasing but it was about his childhood desire to be a monk and how he almost made it (i.e. apparently not that interested in sex). Nicole Kidman doesn’t seem to have pleasant things to say about him either and then there’s the odd miscarriage timing (they announce their separation and then she learns she’s pregnant and miscarries, implying it wasn’t his [the long period of time when they didn’t have kids even though both are apparently fertile and the fact that she became pregnant during a separation]). Katie Holmes began with the jumping on Oprah incident and then the various oddities thereafter. Like Michael Jackson his household seems to be all stocked up with weird.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/68 "2010-03-30T19:52:38Z")

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What about Sigfried and What’s-Left-Of-Roy?

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/69 "2010-03-30T19:53:52Z")

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Doesn’t oprah have a lot of gay rumors swirling about her as well?

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/70 "2010-03-30T20:10:16Z")

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Tom Cruise is not gay, but his “thetans” are.  
Leonardo DiCaprion is probbly gay.  
What about Jay Leno?

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/71 "2010-03-30T20:12:32Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> What about Sigfried and What’s-Left-Of-Roy?

The scuttlebutt is that they were lovers many years ago but haven’t been romantically involved for decades. They still live and work together and are each other’s lifemates but it’s a sort of very open marriage. Both have had significant others who they’re fairly public with but at the end of the day and of the relationship they’re going to continue living with each other. (Gore Vidal claims that he and Howard Austen, his partner of 50 years, had a similar relationship: long term significant others who turned outward for sex and inward for everything else.)

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/72 "2010-03-30T20:19:48Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> I think Spacey’s probably bi. I’ve read accounts of women who’ve slept with him in addition to all the weird “getting his phone stolen walking his dog at 2am through a known gay cruising area” stories. I seem to remember hearing that he & Emily Blunt had a thing once? Though if you’ve ever read about his childhood, it was fucking bizarre so who knows what’s really going on in his head.

Spacey has a great line about this, to the effect of: “Lots of women think I’m gay and try to convert me. I let them.”

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/73 "2010-03-30T20:22:15Z")

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Has anyone heard the theories that Abe Lincoln was gay? Sorry, no cite.

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**Author:** ![Mahna\_Mahna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mahna\_Mahna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahna_Mahna)\
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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> What about Sigfried and What’s-Left-Of-Roy?

[They fessed up in 2007.](http://blog.vh1.com/2007-08-17/siegfried-and-roy-shock-the-world-with-their-gayness/)

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/75 "2010-03-30T20:33:17Z")

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> [@campp](#):
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> Has anyone heard the theories that Abe Lincoln was gay? Sorry, no cite.

Yeah, they’ve been high profile in recent years. Personally I discount them as they’re mainly based on his sharing a bed with a roommate for 4 years as a young bachelor (which wasn’t uncommon in the 19th century) and on his sharing a bed with his bodyguard whenever Mrs. Lincoln was away (which when you consider what happened when he _didn’t_ have a bodyguard near him takes on new meaning). He very well could have been but if he was gayer than Liberace on laughing gas there’s no real way to prove it.

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Lily Tomlin?  
Gene Wilder after Gilda?

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> [@snowmaster](#):
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> Lily Tomlin?  
> Gene Wilder after Gilda?

Lily was out long ago.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/78 "2010-03-30T21:10:32Z")

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Two people so far have mentioned DiCaprio. Zuh? I thought he was a notorious womanizer, not just dating but hooking up like it was going out of style.

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> What about Sigfried and What’s-Left-Of-Roy?

snerk!

it’s usually the tiger.

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Re Ryan Seacrest… Howard Stern had some bimbo on recently that ‘dated’ him for months and said they would go out in public together but never had any sexual contact. Not that I believe all of what some airhead says, I just found it interesting how clueless she seemed to be about it, like she couldn’t think of any reason in the world why he wanted to take her out around town but didn’t want to touch her.

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