# Now that Ricky is out, what celebrities "everybody knows" are gay remain? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272 "2010-03-29T23:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![gang\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f07891/32.png) [@gang\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gang_green)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/101 "2010-03-31T17:00:27Z")
Tom Cruise made a couple of movies in the Dallas area in the 80s. Gay friends of mine said he was often seen in the gay bars thereabouts. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/102 "2010-03-31T17:00:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Derek Jeter. > > We all know it, come on. Yeah… who’s more likely to be gay.. a guy in blue socks or Red Sox? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/103 "2010-03-31T17:01:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Derek Jeter. > > We all know it, come on. Wasn’t there a former Yankees staffer who wrote a book a few years back claiming he caught Derek Jeter in flagrante delicto with Jorge Posada? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/104 "2010-03-31T17:08:29Z")
Re: Queen Latifiah. **Markxxx** said this in one of the closed Ricky Martin threads. [QUOTE=Mark] It’s always a good thing when people come out of the closet, I think it’s even more important when minorities do it. There still is a huge taboo in the African American and Latin communities. One of the odd side effects of this is a higher HIV rate. I don’t think anyone was really surprised at this, as opposed to say “Rock Hudson,” but hopefully it will help more minorities feel comfortable with themselves. After all it’s easy to come out when you’re sitting on a pile of money and shielded from the world, but hopefully it’ll help other younger people cope with coming to terms with their homosexuality [/QUOTE] Agreed. This is only reason I want Queen Latifah to come out so much, as opposed to it being one of those everyone knows things, but without her explicitly acknowledging so. Usually I don’t give two shits about who’s out or in, but perhaps it would be easier for young gay people in certain communities where it’s still a huge no-no if they found that many of the people they (and presumably the people who are shunning their sexuality) look up to are gay. Yes, I realize that “certain communities” is not strictly a racial/ethnic, just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/105 "2010-03-31T20:25:37Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > I can see it. GC seems to be the default answer to many blind items guesses in that he is reported to swing both ways. If he was totally hetero, he might indulge in chest-beating ladies-man behavior like any typical Hollywood pussy hound. :rolleyes: Or, he might present himself as one of those “happily married for years with a sweaty family of five”. As it is, he lives with a group of buddies in an estate in Switzerland, parades his latest cocktail waitress mistress out in public for a year or so, and then drops her until he finds ANOTHER cocktail waitress to parade in public. I love George, I think this is all fine, and I’m glad he’s living his life on his own terms. Well, the OP specifically forbade any “I know so and so…” but as it happens… I know so and so. And I keep telling the person I know that it can’t possibly be true and the person I know has a reason to say in reply: keep tellin’ yourself that. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/106 "2010-03-31T22:17:51Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And that they eat hay, with a manta ray, in Biscayne Bay .. would that be okay? Oi vay… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/107 "2010-04-01T00:22:34Z")
What about Mike Piazza? Is he still pretending to be straight? He’s a guy I’ve actually heard a couple “I know a guy who did him” stories about. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/108 "2010-04-01T00:25:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What about Mike Piazza? Is he still pretending to be straight? He’s a guy I’ve actually heard a couple “I know a guy who did him” stories about. He married a Playboy bunny and she’s since popped out two kids. If he’s gay, he’s doing it all wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/109 "2010-04-01T00:39:42Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > \ > Another name that hasn’t been mentioned: Keanu Reeves. THERE’s a mystery man. He had a stillborn baby with his fiancée, Jennifer Syme (who was later killed in a car crash). He too seems to be doing the gay thing wrong. 🙂 Regarding gay people in professional sports - if you accept that about 10-15% of the population is gay, there are A LOT of closeted professional athletes. I can only think of a couple who have come out (who aren’t figure skaters). ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/110 "2010-04-01T04:49:12Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Regarding gay people in professional sports - if you accept that about 10-15% of the population is gay, there are A LOT of closeted professional athletes. But would gays gravitate toward professional athleticism? (Honest question.) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/111 "2010-04-01T05:16:13Z")
I don’t know - why wouldn’t they? (Another honest question - I’ve never pondered this before.) ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/112 "2010-04-01T06:07:42Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Regarding gay people in professional sports - if you accept that about 10-15% of the population is gay, there are A LOT of closeted professional athletes. Who accepts that? Aren’t the common knowledge numbers of the gay population somewhere around 6%? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/113 "2010-04-01T06:17:07Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Crap. Why don’t we just go ahead and say that **everyone** is gay, and call it a day? Rhyming aside, I was going to say the same thing. Why don’t we just say that every single male actor and athlete is closeted and get it over with? Isn’t this just getting silly? ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/114 "2010-04-01T06:18:44Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Who accepts that? Aren’t the common knowledge numbers of the gay population somewhere around 6%? I’ve often wondered that too. I don’t know _any_ gay people at all and I can count the number of gay co-workers I’ve had over the past few years on one hand with fingers left over. I honestly don’t think there are as many gay people as some of the activists would like the think. ---
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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > But would gays gravitate toward professional athleticism? (Honest question.) I think the better or more precise question (for me, anyway) would be "Would it make sense that those gays who are athletic would gravitate to sports that are less team-oriented (less pressure for camaderie/exposure) or more creative (more opportunity to freely be one’s self)? Whatever the proper question, I think it’s highly unlikely that the proportion of gays in pro sports would be anywhere near 10 or even 5 percent. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272/116 "2010-04-01T14:10:43Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Regarding gay people in professional sports - if you accept that about 10-15% of the population is gay, there are A LOT of closeted professional athletes. I can only think of a couple who have come out (who aren’t figure skaters). Figure skating is certainly one of those fields where everyone assumes a huge percentage of the men would be gay… but for whatever it’s worth, Rudy Galindo (the best known openly gay skater) insists that very few are. I saw this come up in a magazine interview. The reporter expressed surprise and skepticism when Rudy told him there weren’t many gay male skaters. Rudy replied, essentially, “I know, I know. You’d THINK there’d be lots. But there aren’t. Most of them have wives and kids. Why would I lie?” ---
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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Who accepts that? Aren’t the common knowledge numbers of the gay population somewhere around 6%? The 10% figure is a high-end estimate – ridiculously high, IMO. This figure was derived from the Kinsey report, [the methodology of which has been widely disputed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation#The_Kinsey_Reports). It’s a shocking statistic though, which is why it gets a lot of play. More typically, other studies report results that range from 1-2% to (IIRC) 5-6%. ---
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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I’ve often wondered that too. I don’t know _any_ gay people at all and I can count the number of gay co-workers I’ve had over the past few years on one hand with fingers left over. I honestly don’t think there are as many gay people as some of the activists would like the think. I don’t know \*any \*fundamentalist Christians at all, and there may possibly have been one I worked with over the years. Therefore I don’t think there are really that many fundie Christians. Or could it \*possibly \*be that my experience is not the norm everywhere? No? ---
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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I’ve often wondered that too. I don’t know _any_ gay people at all and I can count the number of gay co-workers I’ve had over the past few years on one hand with fingers left over. I honestly don’t think there are as many gay people as some of the activists would like the think. You’ve probably known a lot more than you knew you knew. ---
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Ted Whatshisface that had a Gay Rent Boy and then was ratted out, and the Power of God Cured him of his Gheyness. Fred Phelps is gay. Falwell and Baker are gay. The outing is all that is left. They are the last to tell everyone. Back on to a non-quasi-theo-illogical bent: John Travolta. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-ricky-is-out-what-celebrities-everybody-knows-are-gay-remain/534272.md?page=7)