# Now that they are safe.  WTF?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 16, 2001, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-they-are-safe-wtf/93668 "2001-11-16T04:00:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-they-are-safe-wtf/93668/141 "2001-11-20T02:43:12Z")

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> _Originally posted by grienspace \*  
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> Sure, tell that to Amnesty International. By the way, not by any stretch of the imagination were these women_\* imposing \*\*their values. Sharing their beliefs when asked even in the hope of conversion is not an imposition. \*\*

Well, are we talking about the actions of the missionaries/aid workers or those who condemn the Afghan authorities for sanctioning such proselytization? I believe I was referring to the latter.

In any event, a decent argument can be made that the aid-workers themselves were imposing their values. Why? Because they (apparently) entered Afghanistan under false pretenses, thereby endangering the success of other aid missions. This is most likely justified in their minds because introducing people to Jesus (in their minds) outweighs any increased risk of ill-health on the part of Afghan citizens. In a very real sense, the aid-workers were subjecting others to their own values.

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**Author:** ![lucwarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@lucwarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucwarm)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-they-are-safe-wtf/93668/142 "2001-11-20T03:09:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*The student involved did not walk into someone’s house. He walked onto the property on the way to knock on the door whilst trick-or-treating. The racist jerk who got away with killing the Japanese student lucked out and got a jury of racist jerks. \*\*

After some thought, here is my recollection of the facts (and please feel free to correct me):

I believe that the student was shot inside an attached garage.

As I recall, he was not trick-or-treating, but was looking for a halloween party. He knocked and was turned away at the front door by the shooter’s wife. He then entered the garage, and was met there by the shooter, who told him to “freeze.” He continued to advance, was shot at short range with a .44 magnum revolver, and died shortly thereafter.

Of course it’s a total tragedy that the guy died. I’m not trying to justify the shooting in this post.

The point is this: Like I said before, every culture has certain rules, and violating them can be absolutely lethal.

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