# Now THAT Was Fucking Helpful....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2002, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780 "2002-12-10T16:31:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/61 "2002-12-11T21:02:53Z")

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Um, **Shodan** ’s a guy.

And I don’t know about “chunk flow”, but I think that there’s something pretty smelly and chunky spewing from your keyboard.  
_cough_bullshit_cough_

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/62 "2002-12-11T21:10:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Clint in Wichita \*  
> \*\*Let’s be clear: When I said “nits make lice”, I meant that Palestinian terrorists were once Palestinian children.
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> If Mommy and Daddy Palestinian don’t want Junior to become a grease spot, stop the terrorist activity & stop making your own neighborhood a battlefield.
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> The Palestinians have never had a legitimate claim to the lands they occupy. I think Israel has shown tremendous restraint in not eliminating all Palestinians in the region. \*\*

So, just to be clear, you were advocating genocide against all Palestinians, of all ages and sexes, in Israel or anywhere else in the Mideast. A Final Solution, as it were?

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/63 "2002-12-11T21:14:16Z")

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> Another armchair terrorist fighter.
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> What’s really sad is I’m sure he thinks he’s 100% right. It all makes sense to you doesn’t it. You actually think that you can fight terrorism with more violence and win.
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> You can kill all the terrorists you want. You can not listen to the people who they “fight” for. You can keep your childish stupid concepts of how the world actually works. Terrorists will still be killing innocent people. Innocent people will still be harmed in the reprisals. The reprisals for the reprisals will be nasty … repeat to fade. All you end up with is a lot of hatred and dead people. That’s your way.
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> Never surrender. Keep fighting the just fight for your side. Fight to protect what you hold dear. Unfortunately both side believe this with the same strength.

To beat terrorism you have to make it unthinkable. You want to kill 20 people/kids whatever in a bus bomb were going to kill 200 in return. You want to kill 1000? Great we will kill 10,000.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/64 "2002-12-11T21:25:28Z")

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Somebody has been watching “Swordfish” a little too much. Seriously, BIG DADDY, Halle is really hot, but at least turn the DVD player off after you jerk it. The male brain is very susceptible after an orgasm, and you’re more likely to buy into a big pile of steaming poo than not.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/65 "2002-12-11T21:39:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \*  
> \*\*To beat terrorism you have to make it unthinkable. You want to kill 20 people/kids whatever in a bus bomb were going to kill 200 in return. You want to kill 1000? Great we will kill 10,000. \*\*

Of course. Because then you really are better than that which you fight against, aren’t you.

I could ask you about fighting monsters or staring into the abyss but really whats the point.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/66 "2002-12-11T21:42:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Clint in Wichita \*  
> **I used the term “nits make lice” in a discussion about Palestinian children, and “Shodan” started this thread. I’ve seen much worse than “nits make lice” on this message board.**

Let me ask you to be clear. You think that palestinian children are nothing more than terrorists in the making, and should be dealt with accordingly?

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/67 "2002-12-11T21:50:47Z")

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It’s what you have to do though. That theory goes back way before that movie. BTW Halle is hot. 😉 You can’t negotiate with wackos. Did you hear Osamas last demands? LOL

Osama’s letter to America…  
…in which he tells America what we must do to stop the terrorist attacks…

The nation must convert to Islam, and other beliefs or philosophies will not be allowed…

Our system of laws must be based on Islamic principles-woman must wear their burkas, cannot hold jobs, homosexuality must be abolished, no fornication, no loans of any type which have any interest charge at all, etc…

We must quit supporting the “continuation” of Israel…

We must leave and stay out of any Muslim country…

These conditions, and many more, must all be met (no exceptions), or we will all be destroyed…  
Our women must wear Burkas? ROFLMAO Yea OK.  
:rolleyes:

We are going to negotiate with this piece of crap?

He wants to force his religion on all of us. I say we do exactly the opposite.

1. Take over the country
2. Make Burkas illegal
3. All women must work unless handicapped.
4. Turn all their young hotties into cum guzzling little sluts.

Once they experience that they will never go back.

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/68 "2002-12-11T21:56:20Z")

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Why won’t this thing let me edit my own posts? Says I don’t have permission. WTF is that? Anywho the last post was for the munch meister.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/69 "2002-12-11T21:57:36Z")

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All right, how many schools had snowdays today?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/70 "2002-12-11T21:59:31Z")

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You cannot edit your own posts-no one can except the mods and admins. It’s set that way under the board control panel-that way, people can’t come in, cause a lot of trouble, then delete that.

Or something.

BTW, old-timers-was there ever a time when one could edit one’s posts? What spoiled it?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/71 "2002-12-11T22:01:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \*  
> \*\* Osama’s letter to America…in which he tells America what we must do to stop the terrorist attacks… The nation must convert to Islam, and other beliefs or philosophies will not be allowed… … \*\*

This of course having immediate relevance to Palestinian children…ah fuck it, enough of reason. Fuck off you dull wanker.

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/72 "2002-12-11T22:12:00Z")

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Everyone is so angry on this BB. Do any of you get laid? Do you have the ability to attack the subject and not the posters? How do you want to deal with terrorism big Gary? Somebody killed your family I can guarantee you one damn thing. You wouldn’t want to negotiate with them.

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/73 "2002-12-11T22:18:59Z")

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For all of you that don’t think striking back is an appropriate move I give you this:

1. Approach dumb rich ignorant student talking about “peace” and saying there should be, “no retaliation.”
2. Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.
3. When he says “No,” ask, “Why not?”
4. Wait until he says something to the effect of, “Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence.”
5. When he’s in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6. When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, “be awful and he should not cause more violence.”
7. Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8. Punch him in the face again, harder this time.  
Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to punch back.

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**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/74 "2002-12-11T22:24:12Z")

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OK, I’m confused. Is **BIG\_DADDY** an asshat, turdburglar or a fuckfoon?  
Can we put it to a vote? Or would that have to be done in IMHO?

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/75 "2002-12-11T22:30:36Z")

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ooooo another intelligent response. Well thought out. Attacks the issues not the poster. Way to go wolffy.

BIG DADDY

Living in reality.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/76 "2002-12-11T22:32:39Z")

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> Do you have the ability to attack the subject and not the posters?

Read the forum descriptions. This here’s the BBQ Pit, a place set aside for the inevitable flames that arise in the course of other discussions. If you’re looking for (strictly enforced) civil debate try our Great Debates forum.

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**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/77 "2002-12-11T22:36:38Z")

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Seriously, I’m not trying to flame or be a smart ass. I am just trying to get a serious answer. I using the appropriate move post to make my point. I don’t like violence anymore than any of you I just feel that is the way you have to deal with it. It would be nice if anybody here has a serious well thought out answer instead of a bunch of name calling. I can go to [www.romperoom.com](http://www.romperoom.com) for that.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/78 "2002-12-11T22:38:25Z")

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From reading his posts, I figure Shodan and I subscribe to wildly different political idologies. However, I must applaude you for taking this **Clint** guy to task. I was particularly impressed with this comment:

For the record, if I had your thoughts inside my head, I would hang by my heels and snort Drano until I thought my brain was cleansed.

LOL! It’s got a good beat, and I can really bug out to it. I’ll give it an 86!

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**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/79 "2002-12-11T22:38:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \*  
> \*\*ooooo another intelligent response. Well thought out. Attacks the issues not the poster. Way to go wolffy.
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> BIG DADDY
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> Living in reality. \*\*

_If_ this were a different forum, _if_ your “issues” were worth discussing, _if_ you weren’t such a goat-felcher (haven’t seen that one in awhile!) and _if_ I really felt like it, we could debate the issues.

Since those critera aren’t met, I’ll just go ahead and call you all sorts of portmonteau names.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-was-fucking-helpful/141780/80 "2002-12-11T22:39:36Z")

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> I used the term “nits make lice” in a discussion about Palestinian children, and “Shodan” started this thread. I’ve seen much worse than “nits make lice” on this message board. If what you can get away with is directly related to how many posts you have, I can deal with it. Just fill me in on the numbers.

Clint, I hate to tell you this, but I’m pretty sure Lynn is referring to your comment above, “The doctor who delivered you should’ve turned you around, stuck your head right back into your mother’s ass, and sliced you open from stem to stern with a scalpel.” That’s rather outside the bounds of what we allow even here in the BBQ Pit. While, yes, this is the forum for flames, there are some things that we still don’t like. Got it?

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