# Now that we are back, Enterprise Season 2 Shockwave, Part II Thread!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 20, 2002, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682 "2002-09-20T00:32:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/21 "2002-09-20T17:15:29Z")

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Checked out my tape last night. Ahh…Hoshi!! We need a topless Hoshi spin-off! I hope we don’t have time travel disasters each week, all being cured by someone pulling a Deus Ex Machina device out of Daniels’ quarters.

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/22 "2002-09-20T18:04:42Z")

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Next week on \*\* Tars’s \*\* Enterprise Cliche Extravaganza:  
Hoshi loses her shirt again.

Hoshi: Oh, no! I’ve lost my shirt!  
Malcomb: \* (letting himself into Crewman Daniels’s quarters) \* Here, take this one. It’s all plasticky and futuristic, but it’s about your size!.. Oooh, candy. I’ll have that! \* (Stuffs pockets with stolen future candy) \*

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/23 "2002-09-20T18:32:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> \*\*Outies have nver done anything for me.
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> ^:)^ \*\*

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It’s not even a real outie. I believe it’s a flap of latex used to cover Jolene Blalock’s piercing. 😉

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/24 "2002-09-20T18:34:31Z")

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Looks like they locked up my early attempted Thread on this episode.  
Next time, I’ll wait a bit longer and look for you ( **carnivorousplant** or **Tars Tarkas** ), since you are generally the ones who start it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/25 "2002-09-20T19:29:10Z")

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**vlw** , your thread probably disappeared while the board was reset. There’s a bunch of posts missing from the past few days.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/26 "2002-09-20T19:44:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> \*\*  
> a flap of latex used to cover Jolene Blalock’s piercing. 😉 \*\*

'Cuse me, I’m sick.

Good gad, WHY do I read these things, why?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/27 "2002-09-20T19:50:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vivalostwages \*  
> **I’ll wait and look for you (carnivorousplant or Tars Tarkas )**

Yes, there is something about Tars’ sister and Cecil. I’m not sure what it is, but they are kind enough to include me.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/28 "2002-09-20T19:51:08Z")

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We were reset to Monday morning when the board was complely restored.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/29 "2002-09-20T19:54:43Z")

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Don’t forget Archer droning on and on about how someday man will be all over space like ugly on a Ape, but then the Damn Dirty Ape Defense Council teams up with Evil Vulcan from Alien Nation and they try to get Archer ousted again.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/30 "2002-09-20T21:02:52Z")

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Archer is really gonna be pissed when he discovers that his part in the founding of the Federation is being eaten alive by starving Telerite orphans. The Pig-Guys are so impressed with the selflessness of humans (Archer is/will be/whatever passed out) that with Terra they become founding members of the Federation. No wonder Daniels was reluctant to spill the legumes.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2002, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/31 "2002-09-20T22:27:16Z")

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Text of the Romulan Star Empire novel from the alternate 30th century: “They kicked our tails!! Hail to the Praetor!!”

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/32 "2002-09-21T03:30:34Z")

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> Don’t forget Archer droning on and on about how someday man will be all over space like ugly on a Ape, but then the Damn Dirty Ape Defense Council teams up with Evil Vulcan from Alien Nation and they try to get Archer ousted again.

But really, can you blame them? After listening to Archer’s argument (“Humans are like a new-born gazelle…”), I was ready to have him ousted, too. Scott, Scott, I know you can do better than that.

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**Author:** ![NeutronJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neutronjack/32/4134_2.png) [@NeutronJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeutronJack)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/33 "2002-09-21T18:01:28Z")

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> **So Hoshi is claustraphobic and yet has no quams travelling around in a completely sealed environment? Maybe I’m wrong but isn’t part of clautrophobia a fear of enclosed spaces, not small spaces.**

I don’t know about Hoshi, but my kind of claustrophobia is just like what she displayed. I have no trouble in a reasonably large enclosed space (dorm room, bathroom, elevator) as long as I have enough space to extend my arms. Anything without that immediate space, however (air duct, closet, cave passage) makes me really unhappy.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/34 "2002-09-21T20:02:57Z")

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So just how much of Topless Hoshi did they show? Just from the back, right?

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2002, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/35 "2002-09-21T20:05:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jab1 \*  
> \*\*So just how much of Topless Hoshi did they show? Just from the back, right? \*\*

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No, there was a frontal view; she had her hands crossed over herself when asking for a shirt.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@The\_Great\_Zamboni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Zamboni)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/36 "2002-09-22T04:11:29Z")

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This was a great episode, but I beg you Braga and Berman, please, please stop this time travel crap! It will ruin Enterprise! The future needs to be a secret for these fledgling explorers. If you really want to show so much time travel, create a new ST series devoted to time travel! Enterprise is supposed to showcase the infancy of starfleet and the beginnings of The Federation!

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/37 "2002-09-22T06:32:23Z")

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Hey, they need a new crutch since they are pre-holodeck!! (note: haven’t read **Chronos** ’s new holodeck thread yet)

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/38 "2002-09-23T12:44:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MrAtoz \*  
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> But really, can you blame them? After listening to Archer’s argument (“Humans are like a new-born gazelle…”), I was ready to have him ousted, too. Scott, Scott, I know you can do better than that. \*\*

I’m with you there. Embarrassing. The vulcans seemed to swallow it, though. I personally liked T’Pol’s argument: “They may be idiots, but you’re sneaks. So give 'em a break.”

If that’s “putting it over the top” (???) I guess she did it. Though that line still strikes me as kinda weird. Also weird: that he said it about three times.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/39 "2002-09-23T13:15:52Z")

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> _Originally posted by Kn_ckers \*  
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> Also weird: that he said it about three times. \*\*

I believe that she did not understand the Terran analogy and he was trying to explain it by his usual method of communicatin with aliens; saying it more slowly and more loudly all in one run on sentence.

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**Author:** ![Kn\_ckers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@Kn\_ckers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kn_ckers)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-we-are-back-enterprise-season-2-shockwave-part-ii-thread/128682/40 "2002-09-23T15:31:36Z")

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A-HA! Perhaps if I were an alien, I’d have got that.

Maybe he should have had Hoshi help out with that one. Though that might have seemed even more suspicious to the “discrete” crewman that saw him go into T’Pol’s quarters.

[in mess hall]  
Crewman Whatshername: Hey, fellow crewperson - you won’t believe what I just saw!  
Fellow Crewperson: What’s that?  
CW: The captain going into that Vulcan’s quarters with Topless Hoshi!  
FC: Wow! UPN’s even pornier than usual, today!

[/imh]  
Kn(I like it, because it’s naughty)ckers

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