# Now THIS is an example of where anti abortionists actually just hate women. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 26, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288 "2011-05-26T14:00:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/161 "2011-05-31T22:26:32Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > So why do they kill babies by fighting UHC which is shown to reduce infant mortality? > > What principle makes them fight against UHC that’s more important than the sanctity of one’s own body? > > How come Republicans pushed a war of false claims that killed hundreds of thousands of innocents, including American service personal, and Iraqis with no real regret? > > Are American service personal not innocent? Are Iraqis not innocent because they’re Iraqi? Its not always the same people that believe in all these things. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/162 "2011-05-31T22:28:32Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > I’m afraid I don’t understand the distinction. If a dingo keeps eating your babies it makes sense to pursue the short term goal of shooting the dingo, while also persuing long term changes such has building a dingo proof shelter. > > I guess I just don’t understand, trying to look at it from their perspective I don’t see why a baby UHC would save is any less worthy of protection than a baby an abortion ban would save. Do you have a cite for any babies that have died in America for lack of UHC? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/163 "2011-05-31T22:34:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > This doesn’t stop training doctors how to perform abortions. It does in effect. > [@](#): > > The number of non-elective abortions (eg, rape and life of the mother) is miniscule compared to the total number. And that makes it OK? > [@](#): > > Maybe it shouldn’t. If residency programs need subsidies in certain states, then the states should provide the money. You can’t hold up the libertarian defense when the spending cut is so targetted. Its not about cutting spending or reducing the size of government (in fact it would probably take a dozen more federal workers to make sure that noone is teaching people how to perform abortions on the government dime), its about eliminating abortions. > [@](#): > > At any rate, I still see no evidence of woman hating. \*Roe \*says that states can’t prevent women from getting abortions (under certain conditions). It doesn’t say that we all have to pay to make sure abortion doctors are available. This isn’t a Roe issue. This isn’t about distinguishing the right to be free from government restrictions on abortion versus a god given right to abortions. This is about eliminating a medical procedure from medical training based on what can only be religious grounds. I can not see any other basis for this sort of legislation. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/164 "2011-05-31T22:35:50Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > You know there’s a multiquote button? The little +, between the quote and the pad. Hit it for each post you want to quote and then hit new reply, and all of the quotes will be in post. Yeah I know, it doesn’t work on my device. Sorry. I used the multiquote function once and IIRC, it only multiquoted the first three posts I checked. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/165 "2011-06-01T03:28:04Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The SSS has been in place for a long time, as are the draft laws, and they were originally passed for reasons other than man hating. A scummy politician voting for an anti-abortion law is not necessarily a woman hater. They want to control the lives of men as much as they do for women. Even their ideas that limit women’s rights are a coverup for their goal of eliminating everybody’s rights and instituting a theocracy. This doesn’t make them woman haters. And some of them are just large sacks of shit wearing business suits, and couldn’t care less what the law was as long as they are better off for voting the way they do. And that doesn’t make them woman haters either. You’d have a tiny shred to stand on if they targeted men. They don’t. They target poor people, black people, and women. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/166 "2011-06-01T14:22:50Z")
> [@margin](#): > > You’d have a tiny shred to stand on if they targeted men. They don’t. They target poor people, black people, and women. I see. There are no poor men. And ‘black’ people are exclusively female. How interesting. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288/167 "2011-06-01T16:30:21Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I see. There are no poor men. And ‘black’ people are exclusively female. How interesting. Take a look at who has abortions, and who, therefore, endures the greatest impact of the ongoing litany of restrictions and barriers and cuts to access. This is an issue which only affects women, and disproportionately, by an order of magnitude, affects black, Hispanic and poor women. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-this-is-an-example-of-where-anti-abortionists-actually-just-hate-women/583288.md?page=8)