# Now, why would someone DO this to me?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 4, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930 "2005-01-04T01:20:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/21 "2005-01-04T02:45:22Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> _Points at TellMeI’mNotCrazy_ …She’s a brunette! A brunette!!!

Yeah well you’re a… a… Crayon Eater!!

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/22 "2005-01-04T02:46:26Z")

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> [@yosemite](#):
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> Is it just me, or does anyone else suspect that perhaps a member of this board was behind that? Or perhaps I don’t know how things at Tripod work—but it seems like pretty fast timing, however it happened, anyway. I can believe that Tripod yanked the original page that fast

It’s never that fast. If you get a response at all. You also usually don’t get to add in an apology or other note of any kind either. It usually just goes to a generic error page.

So I suspect someone (who may or may not frequent the boards), may have had some kind of snit or hissy fit one day, put up the page in a bit of a huff, then forgot about it until it got found today.

_Puts Poirot monacle in eye, starts looking for suspects_…

Let’s see who is prone to snits? Wait, I’m in the Pit, this is going to take awhile…

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/23 "2005-01-04T02:48:47Z")

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> [@Metacom](#):
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> Does tripod let the author select which advertisements would be most apropriate (perhaps based on a selected category), or do they use some kind of heuristic or something?

Those looked like Google ads to me. Those are usually picked based on the contents of the page, I think.

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/24 "2005-01-04T02:50:46Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> Yeah well you’re a… a… Crayon Eater!!

Yeah, well you have… eyebrows! Look! Look everyone! She has _eyebrows_!

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/25 "2005-01-04T02:52:59Z")

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Too many people suck. Try not to feel too bad about it.

I have gotten more and more withdrawn in the last year because of the exact same hting. I don’t even keep a public journal anymore to interact with my fans because certain people seem to love so much kicking you when you’re down, and insulting your life’s work just because they don’t feel it’s a worthwhile endeavour.

I’m glad you got it taken down quickly. No one really deserves that kind of thing from people that don’t even know them. It’s a shame the world has to be that way.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/26 "2005-01-04T02:54:09Z")

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Interestingly, if you put “Eve Golden is a man” into [Google](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22eve+golden+is+a+man%22&btnG=Google+Search), the site comes up with the current “apology”.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/27 "2005-01-04T02:57:40Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> Interestingly, if you put “Eve Golden is a man” into [Google](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22eve+golden+is+a+man%22&btnG=Google+Search), the site comes up with the current “apology”.

Yeah, that’s its cached result; the webcrawlers probably won’t hit the page with its new text for a few days or so.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/28 "2005-01-04T02:57:55Z")

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> [@jinwicked](#):
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> I don’t even keep a public journal anymore to interact with my fans because certain people seem to love so much kicking you when you’re down, and insulting your life’s work just because they don’t feel it’s a worthwhile endeavour.

Quite right. And do you notice that most of the people who kick you the most often haven’t done jack shit themselves? That’s usually the pattern. They’ve never done shit, (either because they’re too lazy/cowardly/have no potential) but they’re first in line to kick someone else who’s at least out there, busting their butt _trying_.

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> No one really deserves that kind of thing from people that don’t even know them. It’s a shame the world has to be that way.

Well said.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/29 "2005-01-04T03:07:17Z")

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Probably Dopers who belong to a certain community. If it’s the group I suspect, I wouldn’t give them the time of day, **Eve**.

I didn’t see the page before-just the appology. How bad was it?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/30 "2005-01-04T03:18:47Z")

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It was just one line that said “Eve Lastname is a man, don’t believe his lies saying otherwise” or something to that effect.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/31 "2005-01-04T03:20:14Z")

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I suspect it was none other than,

**Eve**!  
Clearly this is just a stunt to generate publicity for her upcoming book on the Castles. Some of you may object that this book won’t hit the stores for a few years yet. I say, only somebody with a serius laudanum addiction could have such a poor grasp of time. Somebody like, **Eve**.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/32 "2005-01-04T03:39:53Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I was ego-surfing, looking for reviews of my books, so it serve me right.

No, **Eve** , it doesn’t “serve you right”. No one deserves bullshit like that. I’m glad the page is gone.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/33 "2005-01-04T03:42:44Z")

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I’ve been intrigued by Theda Bara. I’ll be looking for your book, Eve.

PS

Savannah is a fat woman who deletes unflattering pictures from her digital camera. Do not believe her carefully chosen flattering snapshots.

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**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/34 "2005-01-04T03:46:20Z")

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While we’re at it, **Qadgop the Mercotan** _is in AA_!!!

And **matt\_mcl** _is gay_!!!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/35 "2005-01-04T04:04:17Z")

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> [@jinwicked](#):
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> I have gotten more and more withdrawn in the last year because of the exact same hting. I don’t even keep a public journal anymore to interact with my fans because certain people seem to love so much kicking you when you’re down, and insulting your life’s work just because they don’t feel it’s a worthwhile endeavour.

Too bad. I just clicked on your website – to see how worthless, etc. it was – and quite liked some of your stuff, particularly the pop art-y pieces. So while **Eve** is completely unoccupied with not letting the douchebags get her down, I strongly advise not letting “certain people” kicking you when you’re up, down, or all around.

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/36 "2005-01-04T04:23:33Z")

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> [@elfbabe](#):
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> While we’re at it, **Qadgop the Mercotan** _is in AA_!!!
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> And **matt\_mcl** _is gay_!!!
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> :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This changes everything.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/37 "2005-01-04T04:25:37Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> I strongly advise not letting “certain people” kicking you when you’re up, down, or all around.

Exactly. And remember, [William Shatner](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002RUPH4/) (yes, I know, William Shatner) has written an entire song about these “certain people”—they’re called “never done Jacks” and as his [lyrics](http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/william_shatner_lyrics_3366/has_been_lyrics_10478/has_been_lyrics_121296.html) say:

> [@](#):
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> The never was talking about still trying …
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> Will laugh at others failures  
> Though they have not done shit

Though of course you aren’t a “failure,” but they’ll try to kick you down and tell you that you’ve got a lot of nerve to do what you’re doing, while in fact they’re a _never was_ and you’re a _still trying_—moreover, you’ve got a lot going for you, a lot of courage, talent, and “go-get-em” energy, while all they’ve got (as our sage Shatner says):

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> Fear is their companion  
> Nintendo is their game

They’re too cowardly to even try. Easier for them to kick you (usually anonymously, spineless cowards that they are) than to do anything themselves, you know?

(I love this song since I read a thread about it in Cafe Society, can you tell?)

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/38 "2005-01-04T04:50:20Z")

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And, uh, **Derleth** is a dirty nerd who revels in his dirty nerdness! And he runs obsolete software and OSes under emulation! And he drinks too much coffee and spends too much time in Emacs!

Don’t let them get you down, **Eve**. You can bet _they’ll_ never get published.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/39 "2005-01-04T04:51:51Z")

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I just realized something.

_ **Eve is Don Cheadle!** _

Damn, Eve … I just saw “Ocean’s 11,” and I have to tell you – that Cockney accent of yours was awful.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-why-would-someone-do-this-to-me/282930/40 "2005-01-04T05:02:10Z")

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> [@elfbabe](#):
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> While we’re at it, **Qadgop the Mercotan** _is in AA_!!!
> 
> And **matt\_mcl** _is gay_!!!
> 
> :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The Automobile Association?

**matt\_mcl** isn’t really gay, whatever he may tell you. He’s just _Canadian_.

That sort-of-apology sounds more like somebody hacked the site and made things right than anything else. Anyone else get that impression?

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