# Now you're making stuff up. \[Obama's citizenship\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 31, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427 "2009-03-31T14:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/221 "2009-04-02T14:57:03Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I thought that was the belief that Henny Youngman was God? Or that God is a hen. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/222 "2009-04-02T15:09:02Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > As honored as I would be, I really don’t encourage people to practice **Hentortheism**. The pressure of it all is just outrageous. Can we practice Barbarianism instead? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/223 "2009-04-02T15:11:35Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Can we practice Barbarianism instead? That’s going to lead to some confusion with that religion that’s sprung up in France where they worship talking elephants. You know, Babarism. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/224 "2009-04-02T15:14:10Z")
I’ve heard that there’s also a French sect that worships men with long beards, called Barbeism. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/225 "2009-04-02T15:22:32Z")
Not to mention the Church of the Streisand. Barbraism. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/226 "2009-04-02T15:25:41Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Whew. > > Hey, let’s use the time machine and go interrogate Moses about this monotheism thing. I can just see it now: > > (From time machine, over loudspeaker, amid destruction caused by objects attempting to occupy the same space on time machine’s arrival) > SKALD: Moses! are there other gods? > > MOSES: Not if you say there aren’t! > > SKALD: What? That’s not what I said! I mean are there other gods than God. > > MOSES: Not if you say there aren’t ! - Once I get off this mountain I’m gonna put a hurt on that golden calf. Can I go now? I’m not going anywhere near Moses. That would put me right in the sights of the Lord of Hosts, and I’m not entirely sure he likes me. In fact, I’m entirely sure he doesn’t. Well, he wouldn’t, only he doesn’t exist, so he neither likes nor dislikes anyone. Anyway, I don’t speak ancient Hebrew, and there was no indoor plumbing back then, so there’s just no way I’m making that trip. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/227 "2009-04-02T15:27:41Z")
Or the worship of tiny, sexy women with no vaginas: Barbieism. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/228 "2009-04-02T15:29:13Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes, Said by the Lord God to men But surely not the 1989 Coventry City team that went out of the FA Cup to non-league Sutton United, a mere two years after winning the whole competition? They are Gods too? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/229 "2009-04-02T15:32:36Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Not to mention the Church of the Streisand. Barbraism. Great. They’ll go to Rome and we’ll have the biggest gay catfight since the Athenian Symposium ended in a drunken brawl. Then they’ll all end up in bed and, once again, Rome will be sacked by the Barbraians. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/230 "2009-04-02T15:58:44Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > TMen and demons are ‘gods’, as they have the qualities of a god, and God acknowledges them and respects them as gods. But there is one sovereign God above all. So there is no contradiction. So you’re a polytheist? Wouldn’t that make you a Pagan? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/231 "2009-04-02T16:05:37Z")
And of course there’s the shamanistic teachings of Barbiturism. Well, not so much teachings as "whoaaa, maaaan"s. But in a religious way. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/232 "2009-04-02T16:12:22Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > No even if the group is zero, no person even thinks Obama was born outside the US, but if Obama was not born in the US the problem remains, he would only be a figurehead not the president. > > The problem is the law leaves no room for dispute in this matter, if he was born outside the US he can not be president. It is a black and white issue spiritually. > > What man can obtain as ‘facts’ doesn’t matter, only the truth of this single issue. This is some seriously funny shit. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/233 "2009-04-02T16:16:11Z")
But, **kanicbird** , what if Obama isn’t ruled by demons, but _is a demon from Hell himself/_? Being born in Hawaii, he couldn’t be found ineligible for office, but humanity would still have let control of the government pass to demonic forces. _And maybe we already have!_ Isn’t that a far more serious issue? How can we resolve the lingering question over Obama’s demonicity? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/234 "2009-04-02T16:19:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Isn’t that a far more serious issue? How can we resolve the lingering question over Obama’s demonicity? Put him on a scale and find out if he weighs as much as a duck? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/235 "2009-04-02T16:29:56Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Put him on a scale and find out if he weighs as much as a duck? Make him wear a carrot. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/236 "2009-04-02T16:32:16Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > But, **kanicbird** , what if Obama isn’t ruled by demons, but _is a demon from Hell himself/_? Being born in Hawaii, he couldn’t be found ineligible for office, but humanity would still have let control of the government pass to demonic forces. _And maybe we already have!_ > > Isn’t that a far more serious issue? How can we resolve the lingering question over Obama’s demonicity? It’s possible, demons do come into the world as people, such as Judas did, though they would not know they were demons, but just have the nature of a demon, again just like Judas. Also IIRC Hawaii was part of the US when Obama was born, the question if Obama was born in the US or not. If Obama is a demon, and not born in the US, again the power would shift to heavenly rulers, who may or may not give that authority to Obama (as opposed to use it themselves), it would be their choice if God allows it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/237 "2009-04-02T16:34:03Z")
What if he was born in the US but is actually a _fish_? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/238 "2009-04-02T16:35:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What if he was born in the US but is actually a _fish_? Next you’ll be responding to an unexpected attack by an artichoke-wielding assailant by releasing the tiger. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/239 "2009-04-02T16:37:23Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Also IIRC Hawaii was part of the US when Obama was born, the question if Obama was born in the US or not. :: Deep breath :: He was unquestionably born in the U.S. The only people who are questioning this are crazy. Do you understand this, and do you understand he has produced both a birth certificate and a newspaper announcement proving he was born in Hawaii? ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/240 "2009-04-02T16:38:05Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Put him on a scale and find out if he weighs as much as a duck? Build a bridge out him! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=13)