# Now you're making stuff up. \[Obama's citizenship\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 31, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427 "2009-03-31T14:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/261 "2009-04-02T18:24:52Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Really? Score! Meh. Being promiscuous during an abortion is not all it’s cracked up to be. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/262 "2009-04-02T18:25:56Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Meh. Being promiscuous during an abortion is not all it’s cracked up to be. I like to pick up women at abortion clinics, because you know they put out. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/263 "2009-04-02T18:30:57Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I like to pick up women at abortion clinics, because you know they put out. Plus, after a traumatic event like an abortion, they’re certainly more likely to be willing to try anal. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/264 "2009-04-02T18:48:47Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I can come up with men that will provide the information Obama was born in Kenya (or wherever). That would be a neat trick, seeing as how Ann Dunham never left the US until 1967–when Barack Obama was six! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/265 "2009-04-02T18:56:05Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Even by man’s standards no it does not, as CoLB is available to those born outside the US This is not true. For the rest of your post, you appear to be asserting that any lie you make up is as credible as the truth, which is even more delusional than your usual fare. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/266 "2009-04-02T18:57:24Z")
[QUOTE=Lobohan] Oh also: Baal, lord of hosts and true God, my covenant to you made in the many hoe-bags I hath boned and my baptism done in the blood of the unborn that my own seed hath created. I ask that you heap curses and lamentations upon Kanicbird. Shower him with your wrath! Show him that the lisping carpenter and his impotent father are no match for your greatness. Show Him! Show Him! _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ Ufa. [/QUOTE] Cthulhu is not amused. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/267 "2009-04-02T19:09:30Z")
> [@Eutychus](#): > > Where you there in Bethlehem when Jesus was born and witnessed it? Or are you just going on information provided by men? No, I’m going on the Word of God, who is forever praised. > [@](#): > > If the second then I can come up with men that will provide the information Jesus was born in Hollywood (or wherever). Then God will contend with them. > [@](#): > > Do you want to have a vote on it, does the majority declare what is the truth? If that is the case the world would still be flat. Do you believe every certificate of live birth is 100% true and they can not be faked? Please tell us if you know. Even if the certificate of live birth is genuine, does that prove that Jesus was born in Bethlehem? You can have men vote all day long, but the Word of God does not change, Praise be to God. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/268 "2009-04-02T19:12:53Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > That would be a neat trick, seeing as how Ann Dunham never left the US until 1967–when Barack Obama was six! > [@](#): > > According to Obama’s Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, From [http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074) I’m not saying it’s truth, I’m saying I can get a person to claim counter to your claim. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/269 "2009-04-02T19:16:06Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > So… are you saying that you think his birth certificate is faked? And the state of Hawaii is somehow complicit in a coverup? No, he probably thinks Obama made a deal with Satan while in the womb to become president so he could hand all power over to the Devil. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/270 "2009-04-02T19:17:18Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I’m not saying it’s truth, I’m saying I can get a person to claim counter to your claim. I can get a person to claim that Rush Limbaugh raped 3 12-year-olds in Dominica under the influence of Viagra. That doesn’t make it a valid counterclaim. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/271 "2009-04-02T19:17:50Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I’m not saying it’s truth, I’m saying I can get a person to claim counter to your claim. And I can get a person to claim that promiscuity and abortions worship Baal. Doesn’t make it any less retarded. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/272 "2009-04-02T19:19:44Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You’re such a coward. Do you even take a shit without wondering about the ramifications between you and your imaginary friend? You waste time blowing invisible kisses at an anus that doesn’t exist and you have the nerve to instruct other people how to think? > > You are a pathetic child grabbing at apron strings that aren’t even there. > > Oh also: Baal, lord of hosts and true God, my covenant to you made in the many hoe-bags I hath boned and my baptism done in the blood of the unborn that my own seed hath created. I ask that you heap curses and lamentations upon Kanicbird. Shower him with your wrath! Show him that the lisping carpenter and his impotent father are no match for your greatness. Show Him! Show Him! > > _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ > > _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ > > _Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Baal Babylon wgah’nagl fhtagn_ > > Ufa. [QUOTE=1 Kings 18:26-27] 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it. Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “O Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made. At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” [/QUOTE] Yeah, like I’m really going to worry about a curse from Baal, but perhaps try typing louder, also try bigger fonts, perhaps Baal’s eyes are going after all these centuries. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/273 "2009-04-02T19:25:27Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yeah, like I’m really going to worry about a curse from Baal, but perhaps try typing louder, also try bigger fonts, perhaps Baal’s eyes are going after all these centuries. So when Baal doesn’t answer prayers it’s a sign of impotence. And when Jehova and his bastard son don’t answer prayers it’s them working in mysterious ways. Gotcha. You have been gifted with a truly remarkable melon. Capable of levels of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance that would wow a pope. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/274 "2009-04-02T19:31:49Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > No, I’m going on the Word of God, who is forever praised. Not around here, he ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/275 "2009-04-02T19:43:52Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > [http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074](http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074) > > According to Obama’s Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya Which, as I said, would be a neat trick. From the same page: > [@](#): > > Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center. > [@](#): > > and here it says: Barack Obama was born at the Queen’s Medical Center on 4 August 1961. Kapi’olani Medical Center was orginally opened by Queen Kapi’olani, ergo it’s the same place! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/276 "2009-04-02T19:44:53Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You have been gifted with a truly remarkable melon. Capable of levels of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance that would wow a pope. 's called doublethink : the ability to hold two mutually opposing ideas in your head at the same time, and knowing both of them to be right. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Slavery is Freedom. All are One and One is All. To be a Rock and Not To Roll. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/277 "2009-04-02T19:59:49Z")
Just out of interest, Kanicbird, what would you accept as proof that Obama was born in the US? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/278 "2009-04-02T20:07:25Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes Baal is still around, IMHO Baal is worshiped by promiscuity and abortions. You are free to worship that god if you wish. Now you’re making stuff up. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/279 "2009-04-02T20:07:49Z")
I’m holding out until God tells me. Of course it may really be a demon pretending to be God. The only way to tell for sure is that God always tells the truth and demons always lie. Therefore, if you ask “If I asked you yesterday what road leads to town, what would you have said?” you get the right answer, no matter what. What did you want know again? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/280 "2009-04-02T20:20:45Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Now you’re making stuff up. Did the demons make you say that? Personally I’d like to know how abortions go around worshipping things. They can’t even raise their little hands in the air. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=15)