# Now you're making stuff up. \[Obama's citizenship\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 31, 2009, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427 "2009-03-31T14:16:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/341 "2009-04-02T23:47:45Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > …Why does this matter? The issue that if Obama was not born in the US, the presidency is now being run by demons as Obama would have no authority. > > If Obama is a demon is a separate issue. Haven’t been to the States since Obama took office. It appears I missed the part where he declared crack a legal substance. Apparently, the recession’s made it real cheap too. So if crack’s legal, does that mean you now have Amsterdam-like pot-bars all over the place? Because I might have to re-think my next trip. ---
**Author:** ![Race\_Bannon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Race\_Bannon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Race_Bannon)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/342 "2009-04-02T23:54:38Z")
Furious Marmot: as for your OP, I was wondering if you work in the same place I do, until you mentioned Oklahoma. I had almost the same conversation with a senior engineer here in Alabama. I could only get him to shut up after insisting he quit his job on Jan 21. We work for the US Army, and I said to him that if Obama was a fraud, he had no business taking orders from him. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/343 "2009-04-02T23:56:53Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I believe it depends on deals this child made before he was born. While God listens, the right to hear and respond to prayers may have been ceded to other gods, who are obligated to fill them within the terms that God mediated for this child. Wait, you’re saying God subcontracts prayer ? Well no wonder none have been answered in the last 2000 years. Probably went to the lowest bidder or something. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/344 "2009-04-03T00:01:19Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Don’t be stupid. > > There are no BLACK fishmen. :rolleyes: O RLY? [Black Manta](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Manta#Nemesis) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/345 "2009-04-03T00:05:20Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Wait, you’re saying God subcontracts prayer ? Well no wonder none have been answered in the last 2000 years. Probably went to the lowest bidder or something. Personally, I’m still stuck in the hold queue waiting for “Steve” from India to pick up. I believe I am 1,258,675,309th in the queue. However, I am still on the line because “your prayer is important to Me.” This was so much better before God got into offshoring and outsourcing. Jesus used to show up every time I took communion, and now I’m stuck with a sacramental union instead. I’m just waiting until He decides that that still costs too much and melamine would be cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/346 "2009-04-03T00:06:49Z")
Whether or not Obama was born in the States can be used to determine whether or not he’s a demon? Golf clap. **Kanicbird** has to be either Robert Anton Wilson or Robert Shea. But they are both dead. Is that you, Mr Wilson? Is that you, Mr O’Shea? Are you playing with us one last time, from the other side? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/347 "2009-04-03T00:11:04Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Whether or not Obama was born in the States can be used to determine whether or not he’s a demon? Golf clap. It woul determine if Obama was really running the presidency or is he a figurehead for demons. It does not determine if Obama is himself a demon. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/348 "2009-04-03T00:12:43Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes, they are one person. Bill is spiritually accountable for Hillary’s input. Ummm. What is Hillary spiritually accountable for? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/349 "2009-04-03T00:13:48Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Ummm. > > What is Hillary spiritually accountable for? Fool of a Took! Everybody knows that women don’t have souls! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/350 "2009-04-03T00:17:07Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Fool of a Took! Everybody knows that women don’t have souls! Hush. I want to see if he’ll really say it. And can you tesseract me over a plate of sticky buns in time for breakfast tomorrow morning? Thanks. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/351 "2009-04-03T00:22:18Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Ummm. > > What is Hillary spiritually accountable for? Hillary has become part of Bill spiritually, they are one person. Bill and Hillary are in both people. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/352 "2009-04-03T00:26:18Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Hillary has become part of Bill spiritually, they are one person. Bill and Hillary are in both people. So Hilary is liable for Bill’s adultery, an offense against her, is that it? If I go into a rage and murder my stepdaughter, and my wife, attempting to stop me from doing so, gets killed in the process (by me), and I then commit suicide (dying in my sins) does **Mrs. Rhymer** go to hell along with me, as we are both liable for my sins? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/353 "2009-04-03T00:27:30Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Fool of a Took! Everybody knows that women don’t have souls! In marriage spiritually the feminine submits to the masculine and ceases to be itself. In exchange for this the female gets a new identity and full authority of the family name. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/354 "2009-04-03T00:30:39Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > So Hilary is liable for Bill’s adultery, an offense against her, is that it? They equally share in it. Any pain a person inflicts on others also is inflicted to themselves. > [@](#): > > If I go into a rage and murder my stepdaughter, and my wife, attempting to stop me from doing so, gets killed in the process (by me), and I then commit suicide (dying in my sins) does **Mrs. Rhymer** go to hell along with me, as we are both liable for my sins? I take it that you and her did not accept Jesus as Lord, as such you would die condemned. It really doesn’t if your sin is murder, suicide, or picking grain on the sabbath. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/355 "2009-04-03T00:35:41Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Yes, they are one person. Bill is spiritually accountable for Hillary’s input. Is that what the kids are calling it these days? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/356 "2009-04-03T00:37:02Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Hillary has become part of Bill spiritually, they are one person. Bill and Hillary are in both people. Please do not enter into a physical relationship with another human being. Or an emotional one. If you absolutely can NOT restrain yourself from doing so, please do not reproduce. The world does not need any more of your crap, and it would be an evil of worthy of Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Belkar Bitterleaf combined if you were to infect a child with your poison. If I believed in the concept of Satan/Lucifer/Beelzebub/Mephistopheles, I would consider you to be that entity. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/357 "2009-04-03T00:37:28Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > In marriage spiritually the feminine submits to the masculine and ceases to be itself. In exchange for this the female gets a new identity and full authority of the family name. :rolleyes: Her name is still: Hillary Diane \*\*Rodham \*\*Clinton She still kept her original last name. BTW this is not odd in many Hispanic countries. So I guess then that for you all females there can not ever be good Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/358 "2009-04-03T00:43:54Z")
Meh. This thread has ceased to amuse me. I declare it null and void. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/359 "2009-04-03T00:47:02Z")
Hillary’s middle name is Diane? Huh. I did not know that. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427/360 "2009-04-03T00:50:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Please do not enter into a physical relationship with another human being. Or an emotional one. If you absolutely can NOT restrain yourself from doing so, please do not reproduce. > > The world does not need any more of your crap, and it would be an evil of worthy of Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and Belkar Bitterleaf combined if you were to infect a child with your poison. > > If I believed in the concept of Satan/Lucifer/Beelzebub/Mephistopheles, I would consider you to be that entity. **kaydlasdad** , bear in mind that **kanicbird** doesn’t truly believe in this nonsense. Do a search on his user name and the word Obama. I think you’ll find he’s never mentioned the president in any thread before this one. Given the vehemence of the views he’s shared in this thread, does that seem likely? Then consider the thread title. “Now you’re just making things up.” If you’re a troll and you see such a title, isn’t that just an invitation to start stirring up shit? If the majority of persons on this board were Christians, **kanicbird** would be as militantly atheist as **Der Trihs**. If the majority of posters in Cafe Society shared my low opinion of the third Lord of the Rings movie, he’d be singing the praises of Jackson’s siege of Minas Tirith. If somebody started a thread about a six-year-old child in south Africa being kidnapped and raped, he’d make remarks on how the child invited the crime in the womb as a consequence of the evil women are all prey to because of Eve’s sin. He doesn’t care. He’s just looking to push buttons. He’s just looking to cause strife. He’s a troll. And not one of the impressive types–the eight-foot-tall brawlers who are stupid but muscular. He’s one of those 2-inch dolls with poufy hair, and he gets joy only from biting people in the ankle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-youre-making-stuff-up-obamas-citizenship/491427.md?page=19)