# NRA decides the 1st Amendment is making them look bad, seeks limits

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 25, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768 "2018-05-25T01:53:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/101 "2018-05-29T15:25:46Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Go Fuck Yourselves, NRA.
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> Preferably with a loaded weapon.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/102 "2018-05-29T15:34:19Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Yeah. Because of posts like this:

“… from my cold dead hands…”

“molon labe”  
Etc.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/103 "2018-05-29T15:37:26Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> The reactionary “We can’t talk about this right now!” every time there is a shooting?
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> Yeah, that’s hugging your damned guns after a crisis.

Or “it’s too soon”, or any other excuses. When IS the right time? Apparently NEVER.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/104 "2018-05-29T15:39:39Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I’ve owned guns since I was a child. …
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> And the NRA today? Treasonous extremists. The lot of them. They promote violence against their enemies. They took Russian money for propaganda and (likely,) internal payoffs. Their board contains the treasonous, the criminal, the corrupt and the insane. Fuck the NRA. They no longer represent American gun owners or the best interests of American gun owners.

I’m a gun owner and I agree with this.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/105 "2018-07-02T16:36:55Z")

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March 2018: [NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch announces new show on NRATV by threatening left-wing journalism.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nra-video-threatens-journalists-gun-laws-us-florida-shooting-twitter-dana-loesch-a8240341.html)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/106 "2018-07-02T18:04:51Z")

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Is it bad to hope this woman (or someone she loves) gets shot? Preferably an incident where the words “self-inflicted” come into play. I’m afraid this would be the only way for her to begin to see the evil she is perpetrating.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/107 "2018-07-02T18:13:09Z")

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So…are there any plays from Nazi Propaganda playbook that the Right hasn’t used yet?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/108 "2018-07-02T19:29:50Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> March 2018: [NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch announces new show on NRATV by threatening left-wing journalism.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nra-video-threatens-journalists-gun-laws-us-florida-shooting-twitter-dana-loesch-a8240341.html)

Meh. She already said journalists should be curb stomped.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/109 "2018-07-02T19:35:55Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Meh. She already said journalists should be curb stomped.

True, but it speaks to the notion that NRATV is not the NRA.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/110 "2018-07-02T19:57:03Z")

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Can anybody list the features/characteristics that distinguish one from the other?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/111 "2018-07-03T11:58:27Z")

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**NRA** three letters  
**NRATV** five letters

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/112 "2018-07-03T12:20:44Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> [NRA wants Congress to set "limitations" on how the news can cover school shootings](https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pava3k/the-nra-wants-congress-to-decide-how-the-news-can-cover-school-shootings)?
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> “Gosh, we want restrictions on how the media can report on shootings!”
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> So you want restrictions on the only amendment to come before the 2nd, but won’t accept any limits on the 2nd (despite the use of the words ‘well regulated militia’)?
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> Go Fuck Yourselves, NRA.
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> Preferably with a loaded weapon.

You seem to have missed the point of the article. Its parodying the calls for “common sense” limits on the second amendment. You should probably ask the mods to delete this thread.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-decides-the-1st-amendment-is-making-them-look-bad-seeks-limits/814768/113 "2018-07-03T12:49:47Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> You seem to have missed the point of the article. Its parodying the calls for “common sense” limits on the second amendment. You should probably ask the mods to delete this thread.

The liberties of the 1st amendment and the 2nd amendment were not created equally. You missed the “well regulated” and “necessary to defend a free state” portions of the text, which we’ve been debating for years, and will probably continue to debate.

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