# NRA Enables Mexican Cartels' in their Drug Wars **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 19, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028 "2010-05-19T17:58:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/41 "2010-05-20T02:46:13Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I think I qualify as one of them. Hallelujah, Praise Da Lord, a Liberal Gun Defender! So, you wanna shoot some niggers or gooks first? Your call man! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/42 "2010-05-20T02:52:54Z")
Even for the Pit, thats _way_ past crude. Dude. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/43 "2010-05-20T02:56:36Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Hallelujah, Praise Da Lord, a Liberal Gun Defender! > > So, you wanna shoot some niggers or gooks first? > > Your call man! Is this a joke, or a whoosh, or … just what is it? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/44 "2010-05-20T03:23:47Z")
That anyone who shoots a gun also users derogatory terms for minorities and has an insane desire to shoot them like Elmer Fudd during wabbit season?? Don’t look at me that way, SteveG1…and slowly put that gun down. I know he didn’t say anything about spics, but you have a sort of weird gleam in your eye there… -XT ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/45 "2010-05-20T03:37:23Z")
Oh, Jesus Christ. Sorry for the racial hyperbole there, as if it wasn’t obvious. Sheesh. Dumbass mother-grabbers! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/46 "2010-05-20T03:39:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Even for the Pit, thats _way_ past crude. Dude. Unless its a Republican Senator amongst a huge right-wing crowd calling an Indian dude present “macaca”. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/47 "2010-05-20T03:45:20Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Where can I find this survey describing “typical NRA members”? I’m sure you must have some peer-reviewed research readily at hand that describes the average age/income/educational level of NRA members? Surely you wouldn’t just be taking an unsubstantiated cheapshot at people that disagree with you. You’re better than that, right? It is to laugh that the guy who made the sub-moronic post I quoted is trying to claim the moral high ground. And FTR, those schoolmarmish attempts to shame me with the “you’re better than that” nonsense don’t even work when they come from people I know - if responding to a post you find idiotic with the same level of idiocy is good enough for you, it’s damn sure good enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/48 "2010-05-20T03:47:50Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > It is to laugh that the guy who made the sub-moronic post I quoted is trying to claim the moral high ground. And FTR, those schoolmarmish attempts to shame me with the “you’re better than that” nonsense don’t even work when they come from people I know - if responding to a post you find idiotic with the same level of idiocy is good enough for you, it’s damn sure good enough for me. You are however painting NRA members with a really broad brush WRT your previous posts. I am not a member, I don’t own a gun, but you act like nobody should. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/49 "2010-05-20T03:48:16Z")
Given that the Mexican Drug Cartels can probably make a call to some other country like China and order a few cases of chinese made AKs, again, yawn. China will sell guns to pretty much anybody. Heck, Russia will probably sell them a few cases of surplus AKs also. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/50 "2010-05-20T03:53:01Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Given that the Mexican Drug Cartels can probably make a call to some other country like China and order a few cases of chinese made AKs, again, yawn. China will sell guns to pretty much anybody. Heck, Russia will probably sell them a few cases of surplus AKs also. They don’t need to go so far. AK-47s are manufactured in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/51 "2010-05-20T03:56:06Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > You are however painting NRA members with a really broad brush WRT your previous posts. I am not a member, I don’t own a gun, but you act like nobody should. Nope. I don’t think guns should be banned. In fact, nothing I posted said anything about the right to bear arms - just that gun nuts say some dumb-ass shit sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/52 "2010-05-20T03:57:53Z")
[QUOTE=CBEscapee] They don’t need to go so far. AK-47s are manufactured in the USA. [/QUOTE] Rather expensive AK-47’s are manufactured in the US. For the cheap (fully automatic) one’s they would probably simply look to the south to get truck loads of the things. Central and South America are awash in AK’s…they probably wouldn’t need to go looking as far afield as China or Russia. The point, however, is that they wouldn’t get them from the US, nor would they be wanting our kicking semi-automatic ‘assault rifles’, despite how fierce they look. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/53 "2010-05-20T04:05:35Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Nope. I don’t think guns should be banned. In fact, nothing I posted said anything about the right to bear arms - just that gun nuts say some dumb-ass shit sometimes. Now THAT is something I can wholeheartedly agree with. The next time I hear about “zombies” or “SHTF” will be too soon, even if they are euphemisms. People who make those types of statements rather than presenting their case in a rational, level-headed manner do more harm than good. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/54 "2010-05-20T04:06:05Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > It is to laugh that the guy who made the sub-moronic post I quoted is trying to claim the moral high ground. And FTR, those schoolmarmish attempts to shame me with the “you’re better than that” nonsense don’t even work when they come from people I know - if responding to a post you find idiotic with the same level of idiocy is good enough for you, it’s damn sure good enough for me. Aha…so you admit your post was idiocy. Surely this is the greatest moral victory in the history of internet discourse. I shall expect Al Gore to hand deliver my shiny “You win teh internet” medallion and secret decoder ring promptly. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/55 "2010-05-20T04:08:24Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Rather expensive AK-47’s are manufactured in the US. For the cheap (fully automatic) one’s they would probably simply look to the south to get truck loads of the things. Central and South America are awash in AK’s…they probably wouldn’t need to go looking as far afield as China or Russia. The point, however, is that they wouldn’t get them from the US, nor would they be wanting our kicking semi-automatic ‘assault rifles’, despite how fierce they look. > > -XT Do you think the dudes buying the weapons for the cartels have a budget or something? They will get audited by Chapo’s accountant? It doesn’t take much to convert them to full automatic. And the US has thousands of cheap AKs made in other countries available. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/56 "2010-05-20T04:32:50Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Aha…so you admit your post was idiocy. Surely this is the greatest moral victory in the history of internet discourse. I shall expect Al Gore to hand deliver my shiny “You win teh internet” medallion and secret decoder ring promptly. 😛 I do indeed, and I’ll take my prizes, but can I get them from one of Gore’s daughters instead? I haven’t seen them lately, but I’m assuming my teenage fantasies have stood the test of time. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/57 "2010-05-20T04:34:25Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Now THAT is something I can wholeheartedly agree with. The next time I hear about “zombies” or “SHTF” will be too soon, even if they are euphemisms. People who make those types of statements rather than presenting their case in a rational, level-headed manner do more harm than good. I’d not heard of “SHTF” before, but after Googling - yeah, that’s some wacky stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/58 "2010-05-20T05:35:19Z")
I was reading a BBC story the other day about a highly successful Arms Amnesty in somewhere like Kenya or Sierra Leone, where disaffected militant/rebel groups had traded in their guns for amnesty and returned to society. Most of the guns were rusty bolt-action military rifles from the colonial era, old sporting shotguns of the type used for hunting small game, home-made “zip-guns”, and a tiny handful of AK-47s, FN-FALs and H&K G3s. “Guns which look like Assault Rifles” are not the problem, basically. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/59 "2010-05-20T05:47:23Z")
As an American citizen concerned about gun rights, my opinion is _BLAM!_ _BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!_ Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028/60 "2010-05-20T07:48:59Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > As an American citizen concerned about gun rights, my opinion is _BLAM!_ _BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!_ > Thank you. In response to this post and this thread in general, I have only this to say: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AjUpe7Oh1j0/hqdefault.jpg "Duck Hunt level 100 error") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjUpe7Oh1j0) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-enables-mexican-cartels-in-their-drug-wars/540028.md?page=4)