# NRA No Way! Companies affiliated re-thinking things due to Parkland

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2018, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450 "2018-02-24T04:18:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/41 "2018-02-27T06:22:16Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Then, when they are not looking, we take their guns and melt them into bricks for the Great Wall of America.

There’s a meme that says (paraphrasing) “We said: We want reasonable gun safety laws. They heard: We’re going to invade your homes, take your guns, and make them into a statue of a kneeling football player.”

😛

One of my Facebook friends, who appears to have strong ammosexual tendencies, seemed to take that a bit too literally. :smack:

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/42 "2018-02-27T13:05:43Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> FedEx has announced that they will [maintain the relationship with the NRA.](http://fortune.com/2018/02/26/fedex-nra-ties-boycott/)

Money talks. Apparently, it’s ALL that talks.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/43 "2018-02-27T13:52:38Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> They’ve felt that way for decades. Fuck’em.

Well then. When are they going to shit or get off the pot???

I know! Let’s tell them they have “thoughts and prayers”, and it’s just too soon to discuss their concerns 😃  
This gun owner says “to hell with the NRA”.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/44 "2018-02-27T14:06:02Z")

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The NRA needs to find organizations that have a ‘synergistic’ compatibility with them. Are there some pro-suicide groups they could hook up with?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/45 "2018-02-27T14:24:44Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> There’s a meme that says (paraphrasing) “We said: We want reasonable gun safety laws. They heard: We’re going to invade your homes, take your guns, and make them into a statue of a kneeling football player.”
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> 😛
> 
> One of my Facebook friends, who appears to have strong ammosexual tendencies, seemed to take that a bit too literally. :smack:

That’s because guns give mind reading powers.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/46 "2018-02-27T14:43:53Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [The NRA responds:](http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/375458-nra-rips-corporate-sponsors-who-cut-ties-shameful-display-of-cowardice)
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> > [@](#):
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> > “The law-abiding members of the NRA had nothing at all to do with the failure of that school’s security preparedness, the failure of America’s mental health system, the failure of the National Instant Check System or the cruel failures of both federal and local law enforcement,” the group said in a lengthy statement.
> > 
> > “Despite that, some corporations have decided to punish NRA membership in a shameful display of political and civic cowardice. In time, these brands will be replaced by others who recognize that patriotism and determined commitment to Constitutional freedoms are characteristics of a marketplace they very much want to serve,” it continued.
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> > “Let it be absolutely clear. The loss of a discount will neither scare nor distract one single NRA member from our mission to stand and defend the individual freedoms that have always made America the greatest nation in the world.”  
> > …
> 
> “Political and civic cowardice”? Right.

No, I agree with the NRA - we are punishing the NRA for their membership in a shameful display of political and civic cowardice.

What do you mean “That’s not what they meant”?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/47 "2018-02-27T14:53:38Z")

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I wonder if Pierre LaPew would have charged into that school, given the opportunity.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/48 "2018-02-27T15:48:24Z")

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The founder, CEO and Head Asshole of FedEx is a staunch Conservative. No way will FedEx take action against the NRA.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/49 "2018-02-27T17:37:33Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> The really sad thing is that these ‘solutions’ and these arguments and these bloody rationalizations are ONLY happening in the US. No other country in the world has a group like the NRA fueling and focusing on ensuring fucking GUN SALES to the populace.
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> Get rid of the NRA. Period. Slam them into oblivion.

It really galls me to hear people say the NRA will not allow whatever legislation. NOT ALLOW? You are admitting that you are ceding power over the government to them and that has to stop.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/50 "2018-02-27T18:03:54Z")

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FedEx is claiming that they’re not providing special pricing to the NRA (which apparently uses UPS and USPS for shipping), only to the small businesses and consumers who are _members_ of the NRA.

Seems to me that if those prices aren’t available unless you’re an NRA member, then they’re supporting the NRA.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/51 "2018-02-27T18:22:54Z")

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That’s fine. They can take comfort in the fact that I’m not boycotting FedEx, I’m just choosing to use other services to their exclusion.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/52 "2018-02-28T01:39:10Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [NRA’s plan for “hardening” schools](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/02/the-nras-plan-to-harden-schools-is-terrifying/) includes no trees (except thorn-bearing ones to act as natural fencing) no parking lots except patrolled by armed guards, no windows, high prison-style perimeter fences.  
> Maybe we can just have the children attend school in actual prisons. Wouldn’t that be more efficient?

Now, sending hardcore NRA nuts to live in prisons, that I could get behind. And so should the nuts themselves. After all, they’d get to live in a very safe place. Big, beautiful walls. Hardly any windows. Doors that lock tight. The terror and anxiety that comes of living in the real world, where anybody might be out to kill you, would be reduced, possibly eliminated. They could bring their guns with them so they could always be the proverbial Good Guy with a Gun. Every state could designate its own Prison for NRA Nutcases and let them live in an environment that suits their frame of mind and their singleminded emphasis on the Second Amendment.

What could be better for us? I mean, for them?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/53 "2018-02-28T02:08:49Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> Now, sending hardcore NRA nuts to live in prisons, that I could get behind. And so should the nuts themselves. After all, they’d get to live in a very safe place. Big, beautiful walls. Hardly any windows. Doors that lock tight. The terror and anxiety that comes of living in the real world, where anybody might be out to kill you, would be reduced, possibly eliminated. They could bring their guns with them so they could always be the proverbial Good Guy with a Gun. Every state could designate its own Prison for NRA Nutcases and let them live in an environment that suits their frame of mind and their singleminded emphasis on the Second Amendment.
> 
> What could be better for us? I mean, for them?

And think how safe they’d feel, surrounded by all these other people with lots of guns!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/54 "2018-02-28T03:09:44Z")

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I like it!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/55 "2018-02-28T03:11:22Z")

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> [@Anny\_Middon](#):
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> Me too.
> 
> IIRC the original allegation was that the Russians gave millions to the NRA and that the NRA donated that money to the trump campaign, thus getting around those pesky laws that forbid foreign entities from donating to US campaigns. According to one report the NRA spent $30 million to support trump, about 3 times as much as they spent to support Romney – a factoid that if true supports the allegation.
> 
> Does anyone know what would happen if this is all proven true? …

Not a fucking thing.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/56 "2018-02-28T05:21:48Z")

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FedEx also claims that they give this same perk to many other organizations. Does anyone know which ones these are? I mean, if they would give the same perk to some gun control organization, then I could buy their claim that they’re just being neutral.

They did at least say they don’t agree with the NRA, which was more than I was expecting.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/57 "2018-02-28T05:31:01Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> FedEx also claims that they give this same perk to many other organizations. Does anyone know which ones these are? I mean, if they would give the same perk to some gun control organization, then I could buy their claim that they’re just being neutral.
> 
> They did at least say they don’t agree with the NRA, which was more than I was expecting.

[Secret deals between FedEx and the NRA](https://thinkprogress.org/exclusive-fedex-secret-deal-nra-c28dc09530d8/)- and various gun makers.

> [@](#):
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> FedEx’s public policy, like UPS’s, is that “[f]irearms must be shipped via FedEx Priority Overnight service,” according to the company’s 2018 Service Guide, which also states that FedEx will not transport handguns via FedEx Ground.  
> But FedEx does not apply its public rules to everyone. According to the document, the company has struck a deal with dozens of major gun manufacturers and dealers in an effort to woo the industry away from competitors with lower cost shipping. The agreement, which has not been previously reported, shows how important the handgun shipment business is to FedEx.  
> “Some customers have been approved for an exception to ship firearms with a 2-day (AM or PM) service,” the document says. Those customers include 86 firearms manufacturers and dealers, including nearly every major company in the business, like Smith & Wesson, Colt, Glock, SIG Sauer, and the NRA itself.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/58 "2018-02-28T05:35:43Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> FedEx also claims that they give this same perk to many other organizations. Does anyone know which ones these are? I mean, if they would give the same perk to some gun control organization, then I could buy their claim that they’re just being neutral.
> 
> They did at least say they don’t agree with the NRA, which was more than I was expecting.

Not the AARP: [Re: Fedex 26% Discount For NRA Nothing For You](https://community.aarp.org/t5/Politics-Current-Events/Fedex-26-Discount-For-NRA-Nothing-For-You/td-p/1975341). (Dang.)

No for ASCAP members, but [yes for BMI](https://www.bmi.com/benefits/entry/fedex), apparently. (Unfortunately for me, I’m not a BMI member.)

No discount for members of the KISS Army. (Darn it!)

None for members of the Church of the Subgenius, Discordian Society or the Illuminati. (Curses! Foiled again!)

None for unions and certainly not for my union.

And even tho they give active military a discount, it apparently doesn’t extend to the [Veterans of Foreign Wars](https://www.vfw.org/join/member-benefits/retail-discounts).

Yes, I googled for all those. 😃

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/59 "2018-02-28T07:01:52Z")

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The FedEx Advantage program, which is the one the NRA gives as a perc to its members, is also available to American Express users and to the Associated Builders and Contractors trade association. Hertz provides it to small business owners who rent cars. The National Federation of Independent Business also has a partnership with FedEx, as does USAA. So it really isn’t a program that is available only to NRA members; it’s a program available to a lot of small businesses and consumers, \*including \*NRA members.

Mind you, I’d just as soon FedEx dropped the association, but I think we can safely say that this isn’t a benefit restricted to just NRA members.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-no-way-companies-affiliated-re-thinking-things-due-to-parkland/809450/60 "2018-02-28T17:33:33Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> Now, sending hardcore NRA nuts to live in prisons, that I could get behind. And so should the nuts themselves. After all, they’d get to live in a very safe place. Big, beautiful walls. Hardly any windows. Doors that lock tight. The terror and anxiety that comes of living in the real world, where anybody might be out to kill you, would be reduced, possibly eliminated. They could bring their guns with them so they could always be the proverbial Good Guy with a Gun. Every state could designate its own Prison for NRA Nutcases and let them live in an environment that suits their frame of mind and their singleminded emphasis on the Second Amendment.
> 
> What could be better for us? I mean, for them?

They really would have no reason to complain, it is their ideal of what a school should be, after all.

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