# NRA Tells Parents To Keep Guns In Kids’ Rooms For Safety **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694 "2016-06-18T15:27:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/1 "2016-06-18T15:27:27Z")
> [@](#): > > During a seminar on “home defense concepts” at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting in Louisville, an instructor encouraged gun owners to store firearms in their children’s bedrooms. > > Rob Pincus, who owns the popular firearm instruction company I.C.E. Training, paced across a conference room stage as he repeatedly warned against the threat of violent home invasions. After establishing that filling one’s home with weapons is the only solution, he then recommended that gun owners store firearms in their kids’ rooms for easy access. underlining mine. > **[NRA Tells Parents To Keep Guns In Kids’ Rooms For Safety | NationofChange](https://www.nationofchange.org/2016/05/31/nra-tells-parents-keep-guns-kids-rooms-safety/)** Seriously, an NRA spokesperson suggests hiding guns in your child’s room? For safety? > [@](#): > > A woman toward the front raised her hand and discussed her duty to “ensure” that unauthorized people don’t get their hands on her firearms. Pincus immediately toned down her response. > > “Ensure is a strong word,” he said. “So I’m going to say we have an obligation to try to prevent unauthorized access.” He added that hidden, instead of locked or secured, is a perfectly appropriate way to secure a gun. The student is so much smarter than the teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/2 "2016-06-18T15:49:19Z")
In other news, the stock prices of Sturm-Ruger, Smith & Wesson and other manufacturers surged after gun sales shot up in response to talk of stricter gun regulations following the Florida massacre. It’s an increasingly fear-based industry. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/3 "2016-06-18T15:49:31Z")
Sure, some people value their guns more than their own children. On some level he’s thinking that the kids will protect the guns, not vice versa. And the Second Amendment has become more sacred than whatever the guns are supposed to protect. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/4 "2016-06-18T16:14:25Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > underlining mine. > > [http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/05/31/nra-tells-parents-keep-guns-kids-rooms-safety/](http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/05/31/nra-tells-parents-keep-guns-kids-rooms-safety/) > > Seriously, an NRA spokesperson suggests hiding guns in your child’s room? For safety? > > The student is so much smarter than the teacher. As I read it, those were two separate items of guidance: he suggested staging a gun safe in the child’s room, under the theory that this will be your first destination during a hone invasion. He specifically discusses the gun safe being in the child’s room. Hiding guns was not recommended for the child’s room. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/5 "2016-06-18T16:46:34Z")
I get the idea, but the smaller gun safes usually have a limited number of combinations. Do you really want it where your kid can sit there and play with it at leisure? Or watch you walk in to access it sometime and catch all or part of the combo? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/6 "2016-06-18T16:52:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As I read it, those were two separate items of guidance: he suggested staging a gun safe in the child’s room, under the theory that this will be your first destination during a hone invasion. He specifically discusses the gun safe being in the child’s room. Hiding guns was not recommended for the child’s room. Even in the very biased article it managed to mention that he was talking about putting a gun safe in the room. Also it was not the NRA or an NRA spokesman. It was one guy who was a guest speaker at a seminar. As anyone who has ever been to a seminar of any type knows, the guest speakers are giving their own viewpoint and not that of the organizers. Now I think it’s a stupid idea but I like my RO to be accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/7 "2016-06-18T16:54:51Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I get the idea, but the smaller gun safes usually have a limited number of combinations. Do you really want it where your kid can sit there and play with it at leisure? > > Or watch you walk in to access it sometime and catch all or part of the combo? Or you could have a key. Or a fingerprint safe. Or a kid that isn’t a safecracker. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/8 "2016-06-18T17:08:19Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Even in the very biased article it managed to mention that he was talking about putting a gun safe in the room. Also it was not the NRA or an NRA spokesman. It was one guy who was a guest speaker at a seminar. As anyone who has ever been to a seminar of any type knows, the guest speakers are giving their own viewpoint and not that of the organizers. > > Now I think it’s a stupid idea but I like my RO to be accurate. Another stupid part is keeping the gun in the child’s room so you can be armed against an intruder and protect your child. > [@](#): > > “Why would you consider staging a firearm inside a child’s room?” he told the few hundred NRA members in attendance. “It’s the first place I’m going to go! So with an intruder in the house, you’re leaving your bedroom _unarmed_? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/9 "2016-06-18T17:10:44Z")
Yes, because the thing you’ll do upon entering your child’s room is fiddle around with a gun safe for a few minutes. You know, since it will be such a safe that it’s complex enough a child can’t unlock it easily but you can swiftly and safely gain access in mere seconds, despite the adrenaline rush giving your fingers the shakes and causing you to overcompensate. And since that’ll be more important than dealing with a now very likely frightened child liable to run off into harm’s way or get in your way due to panic. Makes sense to me! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/10 "2016-06-18T17:20:40Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > underlining mine. > > [http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/05/31/nra-tells-parents-keep-guns-kids-rooms-safety/](http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/05/31/nra-tells-parents-keep-guns-kids-rooms-safety/) > > Seriously, an NRA spokesperson suggests hiding guns in your child’s room? For safety? > > The student is so much smarter than the teacher. I’m not an anti-gun nut but that’s a stupid and irresponsible suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/11 "2016-06-18T17:28:03Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Even in the very biased article it managed to mention that he was talking about putting a gun safe in the room. Also it was not the NRA or an NRA spokesman. It was one guy who was a guest speaker at a seminar. As anyone who has ever been to a seminar of any type knows, the guest speakers are giving their own viewpoint and not that of the organizers. > > Now I think it’s a stupid idea but I like my RO to be accurate. Even the student was smart enough to realize the stupidity of the “speaker,” and questioned it. The speaker said “hidden” was sufficient. NRA fosters this type of stupidity. I would really expect you, with your experience with firearms, would agree that the further you keep guns from a child, the safer EVERYONE is. And this speaker was a gun/protection specialist. Fucking idiot never heard of a big, well trained dog sleeping in a child’s room. Best protection available. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/12 "2016-06-18T18:04:58Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Fucking idiot never heard of a big, well trained dog sleeping in a child’s room. Best protection available. Nope. Better would be a big, well trained dog WITH A GUN. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/13 "2016-06-18T18:19:09Z")
Or a dog with bees in its mouth and when it barks it shoots bees at you! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/14 "2016-06-18T18:23:46Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Nope. Better would be a big, well trained dog WITH A GUN. Even better than that, a Landshark with a frikkin’ laser on it’s head. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/15 "2016-06-18T18:52:28Z")
Can there be any doubt, any more, that the NRA is not a gun-rights organization but a gun-industry lobby? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/16 "2016-06-18T19:19:12Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Or a dog with bees in its mouth and when it barks it shoots bees at you! I hate those. Every time they see a squirrel in the yard you suddenly have a living room full of bees. It’s a right nuisance. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/17 "2016-06-18T19:28:31Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Can there be any doubt, any more, that the NRA is not a gun-rights organization but a gun-industry lobby? Why can’t it be both? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/18 "2016-06-18T19:33:42Z")
I prefer a dog made of bees and when it barks it shoots bee shaped bullets at you (in .45 . . . of course, like God intended). CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/19 "2016-06-18T19:38:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Can there be any doubt, any more, that the NRA is not a gun-rights organization but a gun-industry lobby? Nope. It’s quite transparently the case that the NRA is an arm of the industry. The only thing that would change that, and change the stranglehold the NRA/industry has on American politics, is to make the gun industry less wildly, orgasmically profitable. There can_not_ be too much discussion on the topic of taking away the special protected status that has been gifted to the gun industry by the US Congress. It needs to happen. On the topic of keeping guns in children’s rooms: it makes me wonder if there’s some long-range plan to make guns cuddly-wuddly Friends in the minds of children–I’m thinking of the way the tobacco industry consciously and deliberately courted children’s attention and emotions with creations like Joe Camel. Gotta win the hearts and minds of those future customers _early!_ (Already, I know, the industry sponsors Youth Marksmanship events and such–same basic idea.) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694/20 "2016-06-18T20:04:18Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Nope. It’s quite transparently the case that the NRA is an arm of the industry. As is a large portion of the Republican party. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-tells-parents-to-keep-guns-in-kids-rooms-for-safety/757694.md?page=2)