# NRA to Sue Arizona over Destroying Buyback Guns

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 9, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623 "2013-01-09T13:17:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623/441 "2013-01-16T18:29:44Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> I would guess that the idea that owning weapons was a moral right pre-dates the invention of firearms.

No, it does not. The idea that owning/bearing weapons is a **gentleman’s privilege** – not everybody’s, only a gentleman’s or aristocrat’s – pre-dates the invention of firearms.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623/442 "2013-01-19T06:33:40Z")

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> [@artemis](#):
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> Unless the gun in question is a complete piece of crap. One criticism I’ve heard leveled against gun buyback programs in the past is that a disproportionate number of the guns collected are very old and in poor repair and essentially useless, so the programs really don’t do much to actually get guns off the street. (I don’t know how much truth there is to that criticism, though.)

Enthusiasts might consider an old gun “useless,” but if it can still fire at all, it is still worth getting off the streets. Might kill somebody just by accident, you know. A club, a baseball bat – you can use that to kill a person, but never by accident. A knife – you **might** kill somebody with it by accident, but the event is extremely rare. But gun-accidents kill many.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623/443 "2013-01-19T16:51:26Z")

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I still would like to see a gun buyback program that actually paid anywhere close to market value–if nothing else, you’d get more of the ideological fence-sitters to choose to sell 'em back.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623/444 "2013-01-19T17:37:15Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> A club, a baseball bat – you can use that to kill a person, but never by accident. .

Well, the assassins club claims the multiple incidents were innocent tomfoolery gone wrong.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nra-to-sue-arizona-over-destroying-buyback-guns/646623/445 "2013-01-22T16:14:38Z")

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Sort of update:

[Editorial by Steve Kozachik](http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/22/opinion/kozachik-gun-buyback/index.html?hpt=hp_t4), the Tuscon vice-mayor who organized the buy-back program in question.

Interesting points – he recently switch from R to D as a direct result of this situation.

And a quote: “I was the target of some of that violent overreaction in the two weeks leading up to the buyback. Thinly veiled threats were leveled at me. I was referred to as ‘Hitler.’ The response made it clear the event I was planning hit a nerve among a group who evidently believe the proper disposal of a firearm is tantamount to the desecration of a holy icon.”

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