# Nuclear deal with Iran **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 14, 2015, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128 "2015-07-14T11:37:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1041 "2015-09-08T17:48:54Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Yes. She put being a Democrat above her “Jewish heart”. Just like you put being a Republican above being a reasonable human being. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1042 "2015-09-08T17:53:02Z")
I am gratified the deal is getting as much support as it is, given the political dynamics. I am surprised that Rep. Wasserman Schultz thought herself able to support it. It would be great if some sensible Senator like Hatch or Collins would support the deal as well. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1043 "2015-09-08T18:06:02Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > I am gratified the deal is getting as much support as it is, given the political dynamics. I am surprised that Rep. Wasserman Schultz thought herself able to support it. As the DNC chair, I suspect a lot of pressure was put on her to do so. No? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1044 "2015-09-08T18:08:09Z")
Obama approval in Florida is 39%. That’s going to be a problem in 2016: [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1045 "2015-09-08T18:18:30Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama approval in Florida is 39%. That’s going to be a problem in 2016: > > [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama) What does this have to do with the Iran nuclear deal? Did you mean to put this in another thread? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1046 "2015-09-08T18:21:03Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What does this have to do with the Iran nuclear deal? Did you mean to put this in another thread? “Obama = bad” is one of those truisms that fits in any thread! ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1047 "2015-09-08T18:22:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama approval in Florida is 39%. That’s going to be a problem in 2016: > > [http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama](http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#barack-obama) Luckily, Obama isn’t running in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1048 "2015-09-08T18:24:20Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What does this have to do with the Iran nuclear deal? Did you mean to put this in another thread? Wasserman-Schultz was mentioned, and surprise that she felt she could support the deal. I thought that the fact that the President is more unpopular in Florida than the fundamentals would suggest was significant. In Georgia, for example, he’s at 41%. So this endangers a lot of Florida Democrats if it goes tits up. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1049 "2015-09-08T18:40:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > As the DNC chair, I suspect a lot of pressure was put on her to do so. No? Yes, I suspect so. I just also suspect she faces the same vulnerabilities as Schumer, Cardin, Booker, and Menendez, et al.–i.e., Jewish constituents and donors who are otherwise reliably Democratic-leaning but who oppose the deal. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1050 "2015-09-08T18:42:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Luckily, Obama isn’t running in 2016. Yes, but a sitting president’s popularity or unpopularity can affect his party’s prospects. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1051 "2015-09-08T18:49:36Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Yes, I suspect so. I just also suspect she faces the same vulnerabilities as Schumer, Cardin, Booker, and Menendez, et al.–i.e., Jewish constituents and donors who are otherwise reliably Democratic-leaning but who oppose the deal. Well, either she genuinely sports the deal, or she did the political calculus and figured that she nets out better by supporting it. I hope it’s the former. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1052 "2015-09-08T18:50:02Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Wasserman-Schultz was mentioned, and surprise that she felt she could support the deal. I thought that the fact that the President is more unpopular in Florida than the fundamentals would suggest was significant. In Georgia, for example, he’s at 41%. > > So this endangers a lot of Florida Democrats if it goes tits up. If it works it could help a lot of politicians. We’ll see. Without context, your post just looked like another “ **adaher** hates Obama” post. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1053 "2015-09-08T18:59:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Well, either she genuinely sports the deal, or she did the political calculus and figured that she nets out better by supporting it. I hope it’s the former. Right. My operating premise was that it must be the former. It seems hard to believe that whatever DNC pressure there is outweighs the hit she’s going to take in her district. I think I saw that someone announced plans to challenge her in a primary already in the last 24 hours. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1054 "2015-09-08T21:37:02Z")
That’ll look really good, all the Jewish Democrats just happening to draw major primary challenges. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1055 "2015-09-08T21:49:21Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’ll look really good, all the Jewish Democrats just happening to draw major primary challenges. From other Jewish democrats. So what? It gives the American Likud a way to dump the insufficiently pure Jewish hearts without voting Republican, so if anything, it should help the Dems retain the seats. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1056 "2015-09-08T21:51:38Z")
Ah, you’re picking Jews to avoid bad appearances? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1057 "2015-09-08T22:26:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’ll look really good, all the Jewish Democrats just happening to draw major primary challenges. The anti-deal Democrats might draw primary challenges as well. Both sides might well draw challenges. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1058 "2015-09-08T22:28:36Z")
That’s fine, I just wonder about Wasserman-Shultz. She’s liberal enough, she’s certainly a loyal partisan. The only conceivable primary challenge would be from the right. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1059 "2015-09-08T22:32:16Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s fine, I just wonder about Wasserman-Shultz. She’s liberal enough, she’s certainly a loyal partisan. The only conceivable primary challenge would be from the right. If she had opposed the deal, she could very well have been primaried from the left. Many liberals aren’t big fans of her at all. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1060 "2015-09-08T22:35:44Z")
> [@](#): > > …The only conceivable primary challenge would be from the right. “Conceivable” within the limits of your imagination, or mine? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128.md?page=54)