They’re trying the political equivalent of throwing a screaming temper tantrum and refusing to move. They think if they don’t do anything, or muck the process up with pointless bills that have no power, that they can somehow block Obama’s treaty from going into effect. Every time this happens I seriously wonder how these people put on pants in the morning. How are they so dysfunctional and yet still elected into government? Fucking get over it already, you’ve lost, just accept it and move on.
The legally non-binding executive agreement has already been signed. It just has to be officially accepted by all parties. We and Europe are no longer in doubt, so the ball is in Iran’s court, and they have not made their decision yet. The President of Iran wants to avoid an assembly vote and Iran’s Supreme Leader has not yet committed.
Many states will be keeping their own Iran sanctions:
So the Iranians’ compliance with the deal is verified with the IAEA. When it comes to inspections that are not at declared nuclear sites, but the IAEA has reason to believe those sites are being used for possible military dimensions of a nuclear weapons program, the IAEA is supposed to be able to conduct inspections of such sites – which is part of the Additional Protocol to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty.
The details of how such inspections are to be carried out are agreed to in advance by the IAEA and the subject country. According to the IAEA, these agreements are kept confidential. In this particular case, the details of this agreement leaked out and were… unusual.
Trying to be as neutral as possible on this issue, the inspection protocols obviously are of intense concern and certainly relevant to how inspections under this agreement will occur. However, it would not be accurate to say that the United States is a party to that particular agreement.
Thanks.
That is the single dumbest thing I have read from a non-Palin governor.
Why? The deal doesn’t cover even all federal sanctions, much less state sanctions. Besides, if the President wanted ALL sanctions lifted, he had to negotiate a treaty. An executive agreement is between the President and the foreign government only.
The deal has a specific provision on state or local sanctions in effect within the United States. It basically says that the U.S. Government will use whatever tools it has to deal with those sanctions, but at the end of the day, Obama isn’t the boss of Ohio. It’s paragraph 25 of the text. Link.
New York is probably a lock to keep sanctions on as well, and California’s sanctions can only be overturned by an act of the state legislature.
You think grassroots Democrats hate “Zionists”?
Most probably don’t even know what a Zionist is?
Yes, but I’m sure John Kerry informed the Iranian team that the likelihood of all 50 states going along was somewhere between slim and none.
this isn’t a big deal, it’s understood that as you said, the federal government is not the boss of the states, and this isn’t a treaty, so it doesn’t establish a federal law. All the President has done is promise to use his personal persuasion abilities.
Sorta, kinda. What I gather is that the deal assigns the responsibility for compliance with the IAEA. Because they know a bunch of stuff. And the IAEA is empowered to negotiate certain points directly with Iran within the framework of the agreement. Some of those details are confidential between the IAEA and Iran. Those, if I read the ravings right, are the “side deals” that Congress has not been fully informed about.
After all, we have only the IAEA’s word on this end. And why would we trust the IAEA when they fed us all that bogus intelligence on Iraq’s WMD program and then fled the country!
Right Wing Hate Radio ™ is now pushing the meme that the agreement requires the U.S. to “stand with Iran” if some third party attempts to sabotage their nuclear facilities. If Israel (just for instance) sent in a sabotage team, or actually launched an attack, the RWHR gang is saying this agreement requires us to…
To what? What does the agreement actually say? Even the RWHR mob isn’t clear. They use the phrase “stand with.” The U.S. would have to “stand with Iran” in the case of sabotage or attack.
Is there any truth to this? Glenn Beck says that the administration is lying in denying this, but it’s a lot easier to believe that it’s Glenn Beck who’s lying.
Am I actually gonna have to read the entire text of the goddam agreement?
Not sure about that one, but it does not past the smell test.
BTW another meme going around about the Iranians being able to delay inspections for 24 hours with no repercussions was a Pinocchio lie. 2 actually.
The first Senate vote of disapproval fails is blocked by 42 Senate Democrats. This deal is definitely happening – the only point of further attempts to block is politics. Cruz wants to make a big splash for his presidential campaign.
Shit, a peace scare! Gotta liquidate my holdings in Halliburton. …
CNN on how the Obama White House prevailed - persuasion, expert assurances and arm-twisting: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/politics/obama-congress-democrats-iran-nuclear-deal/index.html
For all the talk about the dangers of putting scientists in top political jobs, it sure paid off here, and probably in a bigger way than anything the Secretary of Energy would have otherwise contributed to.
Suppose those dastardly Iranians decide to enrich bomb-grade uranium and stockpile it somewhere (in a mine shaft). They prepare the molds and build everything necessary to have a bomb-how would anybody know? Then the time comes, and a few months later, they have 200+ nuclear warheads (ready to put on their missiles)-what then?
Which missiles are these? When do they test them, and how, without anybody catching on? Same with the bombs, they gonna just fling them around and hope they go off? This guy, Moniz, got some credentials*, maybe even a match for your Nuclear Fission merit badge, he says we got this shit covered, but you know better?
*oodles
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McCaskill said she eventually backed the deal after consulting with ambassadors of Asian countries over what they would do with Iranian money they were holding if the United States walked away from the agreement.
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Sounds like it wasn’t just the White House twisting arms.
I’ve never heard of Moniz before. Is that bad?
How would we know about the thousands of centrifuges they’d need to enrich enough uranium to build nukes? Oh, I think we might notice.