# Nuclear meltdown! Holy Godzilla NOOOO!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389 "2011-03-12T08:19:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/761 "2011-03-22T02:45:00Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Did you ever hear of screens?

Screens put up all around wind farms?

You _are_ an idiot. You are the idiot of idiots. If there were an idiot contest for all the idiotic idiots in the world, you would not be crowned supreme idiot–mainly because you are such an idiot that you wouldn’t even be able to find the idiot convention.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/762 "2011-03-22T02:46:44Z")

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my favorite part of the report.

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> “While we haven’t reached the point where we can say we’ve gotten out of this crisis situation, it can be said that we can see the light at the end of the tunnel,” Japanese Prime Minister [Naoto Kan](http://topics.bloomberg.com/naoto-kan/) said at a meeting of his crisis response team in Tokyo yesterday.

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**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/763 "2011-03-22T02:58:04Z")

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More evidence of your idiotic idiocy.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/764 "2011-03-22T02:58:49Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Some studies show that buses are actually less fuel efficient than private cars, and far less efficient than hybrid cars. (From [this page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation) - three- quarters of the way down the page there’s a chart comparing MJ per passenger kilometre). There are of course a lot of asterisks in that comparison, but all buses are not the obvious fuel efficient choice over all private vehicles.

Oh you mean diesel buses. Electric streetcars like we had in Detroit until GM fought to get rid of them, were far cleaner .

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/765 "2011-03-22T03:13:08Z")

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> [@TravisFromOR](#):
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> Screens put up all around wind farms?
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> You _are_ an idiot. You are the idiot of idiots. If there were an idiot contest for all the idiotic idiots in the world, you would not be crowned supreme idiot–mainly because you are such an idiot that you wouldn’t even be able to find the idiot convention.

That was lovely.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/766 "2011-03-22T04:16:31Z")

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> [@gravitycrash](#):
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> Fuck, so much for nuclear power making a comeback in the US. Bring on the goddamn windmills and solar panels!

Solar panels might work in Japan, but windmills probably won’t do well in a large quake.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/767 "2011-03-22T04:22:33Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Solar panels might work in Japan, but windmills probably won’t do well in a large quake.

[Japan plans to build 1,000MW offshore wind power by 2020](http://www.offshorewind.biz/2010/05/10/japan-plans-to-build-1000mw-offshore-wind-power-by-2020/)

That article is a year old. I’m guessing there will be renewed interest in offshore wind power in Japan.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/768 "2011-03-22T04:23:48Z")

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But, but, if an earthquake damages the windmills, they might have to … hmm … Ok they might work

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/769 "2011-03-22T04:39:13Z")

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I don’t like windmills. They are big and scary looking. You all will have to use less electricity because we shouldn’t build these big and scary things that use technology that I don’t understand. My mom lets me use her computer.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/770 "2011-03-22T04:46:49Z")

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Turn it off! You are causing global warming!

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/771 "2011-03-22T05:00:29Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> But, but, if an earthquake damages the windmills, they might have to … hmm … Ok they might work

They might have to fix the ones that are damaged. That just isn’t practical. That and the public can see which ones are damaged and it might cause a widespread panic and stampede as uninformed people flee their then worthless homes.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/772 "2011-03-22T05:06:45Z")

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Knowing the Japanese, they might improve the design and start selling windmills.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/773 "2011-03-22T05:12:45Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Oh you mean diesel buses. Electric streetcars like we had in Detroit until GM fought to get rid of them, were far cleaner .

I saw the documentary on that, too - sometimes I just get tired of finding out how things actually are - it makes me want to buy property in the mountains and just disappear.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/774 "2011-03-22T05:37:50Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I saw the documentary on that, too - sometimes I just get tired of finding out how things actually are - it makes me want to buy property in the mountains and just disappear.

They will find you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/775 "2011-03-22T05:43:54Z")

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The mountains will rat you out.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/776 "2011-03-22T07:27:38Z")

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So far, there have been no fatalities from the nuclear reactor problems.

On the other hand, the [Asahi Dam in the Fukushima prefecture](http://www.waterpowermagazine.com/story.asp?sectioncode=130&storyCode=2059132) failed, washing away numerous homes and killing at least 8 people. It wasn’t even a big dam - it was an irrigation dam, not a hydro dam. Imagine if Japan had had a large hydro dam in the area.

I wonder how many of the people repeating the nuclear hysteria have even heard of that dam or know that it collapsed?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/777 "2011-03-22T15:03:55Z")

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What did the little fish say when he swam into a concrete wall?

Dam!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/778 "2011-03-22T15:20:20Z")

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Its the whales. Revenge!

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/779 "2011-03-22T16:02:40Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> So far, there have been no fatalities from the nuclear reactor problems.
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> On the other hand, the [Asahi Dam in the Fukushima prefecture](http://www.waterpowermagazine.com/story.asp?sectioncode=130&storyCode=2059132) failed, washing away numerous homes and killing at least 8 people. It wasn’t even a big dam - it was an irrigation dam, not a hydro dam. Imagine if Japan had had a large hydro dam in the area.
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> I wonder how many of the people repeating the nuclear hysteria have even heard of that dam or know that it collapsed?

You are correct. This is just way too much attention paid to a non problem.  
Forget the reactors, people died in the earthquake and tsunamis. We have to stop them.  
If you are not piling up an impressive death count, it just isn’t a problem at all.  
Radiation death usually are not immediate. Therefore they do not count. Radiation in the food could impact children and pregnant women quickly. But if they don’t keel over ,they do not matter.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-meltdown-holy-godzilla-noooo/574389/780 "2011-03-22T19:18:38Z")

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Dams, oil refinery fires, coal plant disasters, even 30,000 dead Japs doesn’t really bother the world. A possible radioactive disaster that will rain down plutonium on the northern hemisphere, that gets people worried.

Go figure.

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