# Nuclear Option **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 13, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529 "2011-10-13T14:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/41 "2011-10-19T12:23:32Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > You really do want to grow up to be a mod some day don’t you **Brainy G** …where would you like it? Political debate, not about elections – GD. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/42 "2011-10-19T12:27:16Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > How is [what Harry Reid did](http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/186133-reid-triggers-nuclear-option-to-change-senate-rules-and-prohibit-post-cloture-filibusters) a week ago different than the maneuver that Republicans threatened in the past? In that it was the “Constitutional Option” then. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/43 "2011-10-23T13:16:11Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Political debate, not about elections – GD. Works for me…what I’m really interested in at this point is whether **Ravenman** will admit his error. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/44 "2011-10-23T23:22:12Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Ornstein is not a conservative . . . 😕 [**This** dude](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_J._Ornstein) is One True Scotsman! What, ya wanna pull his con-card over McCain-Feingold or some shit?! ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/45 "2011-10-24T09:33:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > 😕 [**This** dude](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_J._Ornstein) is One True Scotsman! What, ya wanna pull his con-card over McCain-Feingold or some shit?! I appreciate you trying to defend\*\* the R man \*\*but conservatives don’t refer to themselves as “centrists”…deluded liberals do. Quote: “Ornstein is a long-time friend of current U. S. Senator and former comedian Al Franken. Despite working at the conservative-leaning AEI, Ornstein considers himself a centrist.[3]” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/46 "2011-10-24T16:41:52Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I appreciate you trying to defend\*\* the R man \*\*but conservatives don’t refer to themselves as “centrists”…deluded liberals do. No, deceitful conservatives do. Pretty damn’ often. (It even happens around **here** sometimes but they always get called on it.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/47 "2011-10-25T09:40:08Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, deceitful conservatives do. Pretty damn’ often. (It even happens around **here** sometimes but they always get called on it.) Really? The descriptive term “centrists”? Got any examples??? You aren’t speaking of conservative who would state (accurately) that we are a center-right country are you? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/48 "2011-10-31T12:29:06Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Really? The descriptive term “centrists”? Got any examples??? > > You aren’t speaking of conservative who would state (accurately) that we are a center-right country are you? Are you still thinking??? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/49 "2011-10-31T13:13:12Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, deceitful conservatives do. Pretty damn’ often. (It even happens around **here** sometimes but they always get called on it.) Or else they say, “I’m not a conservative, but…” ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/50 "2011-11-02T10:52:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Or else they say, “I’m not a conservative, but…” Nonsense …conservative don’t try to hide from the fact like liberals do. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529/51 "2011-11-02T13:07:50Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > How is [what Harry Reid did](http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/186133-reid-triggers-nuclear-option-to-change-senate-rules-and-prohibit-post-cloture-filibusters) a week ago different than the maneuver that Republicans threatened in the past? > > Have the rules changed forever now ? Because what Reid is doing in this case is enforcing cloture not circumventing it. the nuclear option was Senate Republicans threatening to ignore the filubuster and circumvent the cloture requirement. This bill got cloture, republicans tried to back door filubuster it and Reid just got sick of the latest in a line of Republican douchebaggery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-option/599529.md?page=2)