# Nuclear War is it really coming? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 16, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614 "2013-07-16T00:16:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/21 "2013-07-16T02:36:27Z")
> [@Okieshowedem](#): > > I see why the apostles said it would be sudden destruction. > And why we are warned in Luke 21: Be On Guard–Watch! 34 So be on your guard–see to it that your minds are never clouded with carousing, drunkenness, or anxieties and worries of this life–so that day will not come upon you unexpectedly, 35 For it will come, like a trap, on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. > > Okie The Apocalypse is coming so I **shouldn’t** carouse, get drunk, or . . . worry. OK. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/22 "2013-07-16T02:47:06Z")
Hey, **Okieshowedem,** do not pay much attention to some old crap written by ignorant sheepherders way before science was invented. It’s all fantasy and fairy tales. Believing _anything_ said in that godawful, contradictory, bloodthirsty and immoral book called the Bible reveals a serious problem with logic. And anyone taking the treatise in your link as serious, which says we should welcome the glorious nuclear war since it will be followed by fluffy bunnies for all, is seriously demented. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/23 "2013-07-16T03:28:32Z")
> [@Okieshowedem](#): > > I see why the apostles said it would be sudden destruction. > And why we are warned in Luke 21: Be On Guard–Watch! 34 So be on your guard–see to it that your minds are never clouded with carousing, drunkenness, or anxieties and worries of this life–so that day will not come upon you unexpectedly, 35 For it will come, like a trap, on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. > > Okie I thought we canceled the apocalypse? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/24 "2013-07-16T03:43:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What? You asked. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/25 "2013-07-16T03:52:57Z")
Hang on hang on hang on a minute! Hold off with the Nuclear War (sic). I’m still trying to figure out who your God really is. I skimmed like two pages of that other tome and all it did was convince me that my legal writing professors knew of what they spoke when they told me to put the conclusion first, because sure as fuck those pamphleteers didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/26 "2013-07-16T03:55:31Z")
Okay, I read the linked work. Here’s what I got. Yahweh created everything right. Satan came along and screwed things up. Satan led people away from Yahweh and is still doing so today. Most churches are actually spreading Satan’s lies. Yahweh told everyone that the world was going to end someday. The means of ending the world will be people having a nuclear war. It’s unavoidable. So reject Satan and get right with Yahweh before the world ends. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/27 "2013-07-16T03:58:14Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I thought we canceled the apocalypse? [Saint Augustine] We did!.. (Augustine looks around after the church now controls [del]Babylon[/del] Rome) Uh, guys, now that we control Rome, this book is “no longer operative” as a ruler in the future would say… I know, we will add the book for the symbolism, future generations will not consider it to be literal… [/SA] > **[Apocalypticism Explained | Apocalypse! FRONTLINE | PBS](http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/brevelation.html#augustine)** Nice try Gus, you whooshed millions… ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/28 "2013-07-16T03:59:49Z")
That Yahwek is sure a mean s.o.b. Why not just snap his fingers and have the cosmos pop like a soap bubble? “Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out.” What kind of chicken-shit God is it who needs humans and their measly Plutonium to destroy the world? And why such a damn messy sort of ending? All that smoke, and fall-out, and stubble of cities. Piss poor drama. This is not a mentally healthy God. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/29 "2013-07-16T04:31:32Z")
So…Okie, why is this apocalypse different from all others? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/30 "2013-07-16T04:52:18Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > What kind of chicken-shit God is it who needs humans and their measly Plutonium to destroy the world? And why such a damn messy sort of ending? All that smoke, and fall-out, and stubble of cities. Piss poor drama. This is not a mentally healthy God. The point the booklet makes is that God isn’t destroying the world. People will do it. If everyone just rejected Satan and listened to God then the world wouldn’t be destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/31 "2013-07-16T05:06:26Z")
The world will be destroyed some day, Yahweh or no Yahweh. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/32 "2013-07-16T05:22:49Z")
I think having a nuclear war would be a bad idea regardless of whether or not you believe in Yahweh and Satan. So I’d agree with the OP on that point. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/33 "2013-07-16T06:09:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think having a nuclear war would be a bad idea regardless of whether or not you believe in Yahweh and Satan. Not necessarily. If there is a Satan and he and his army of hellspawn actually show up, vaporizing them all with nukes might prove useful… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/34 "2013-07-16T06:12:46Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > So…Okie, why is this apocalypse different from all others? Because in all other Apocalypses we eat both chametz and matzah . . . ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/35 "2013-07-16T06:21:12Z")
Obligatory [link](http://instantrimshot.com/) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/36 "2013-07-16T06:40:04Z")
The world will be destroyed? \*Watch out for that small moon That’s no moon …\* ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/37 "2013-07-16T07:12:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Because in all other Apocalypses we eat both chametz and matzah . . . Nice one! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/38 "2013-07-16T08:16:16Z")
Over dew? I thought dew only developed on top of stuff. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/39 "2013-07-16T12:53:46Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > We really need to change the rules about witnessing. Like instaban, only quicker. I find myself wishing for rules in GD that require anyone starting a thread to clearly state his or her premise in the first paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/40 "2013-07-16T12:58:23Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > Believing _anything_ said in that godawful, contradictory, bloodthirsty and immoral book called the Bible reveals a serious problem with logic. Lots of great advice in the Bible, no matter what your religious views. Anyone interested in being part of human society should read it and consider it. Not everything is applicable today, of course. And some of it is pure nonsense. But there’s a lot to be learned. “Build your house on a foundation of stone, not sand”. -that’s practical advice from an experienced carpenter. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614.md?page=3)