# Nuclear War is it really coming? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 16, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614 "2013-07-16T00:16:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/61 "2013-07-16T23:00:27Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > some of us are going to be vaporized in a matter of minutes. When I first moved into the Uptown neighborhood of Minneapolis back in '86, the subject of nuclear war came up and people were talking about how and whether it would be possible to get out of the cities from there. I said given the warning time, it would be impossible, so if it came to it, I intended to just go sit out on the deck facing downtown and be killed instantly. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/62 "2013-07-16T23:18:14Z")
> [@aNewLeaf](#): > > Lots of great advice in the Bible, no matter what your religious views. > Anyone interested in being part of human society should read it and consider it. > Not everything is applicable today, of course. And some of it is pure nonsense. But there’s a lot to be learned. > > “Build your house on a foundation of stone, not sand”. > -that’s practical advice from an experienced carpenter. 😉 So, I guess building it in the swamp would be right out then? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/63 "2013-07-17T00:48:17Z")
\When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that’s what you’re going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.\ ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/64 "2013-07-17T01:05:24Z")
To the OP: I wonder if you know the audience that you are posting to. (That was an ugly sentence, but I’m on a roll.) You appear to be of the mind that something in your referenced work would cause someone here to genuinely reflect upon the overwrought words of hysteria and unfulfilled promises that you present and gain some insight into the eternal goodness of Yahweh. I would strongly suggest that you read the many threads posted over the years that address every single one of the poorly worded and logically unsupported notions found in the mass of verbiage that you seem to think to be full of wisdom. It is also not good form to post and then fail to directly address your audience’s responses. To convince, you must first ally the suspicions of many that you are not truly sincere in your remonstrations and are merely regurgitating the words of wisdom that you may have stumbled upon in your daily wanderings. I know a famous movie guru once said, “The new phone book’s here! The new phone book’s here! This is the kind of spontaneous publicity I need. My name in print. That really makes somebody. Things are going to start happening to me now!”, but that doesn’t mean that you need to see your name in print on a message board to be successful in promulgating the messages you found. I suggest a blog where you can more finely hone your message of despair and deep depression, where all of Mankind is doomed to failure because a talking snake convinced a woman to eat some fruit. Who knows, you may well be the first to do so. Good luck and Goddess bless. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/65 "2013-07-17T04:33:57Z")
😃 > [@aNewLeaf](#): > > Lots of great advice in the Bible, no matter what your religious views. Especially in the Old Testament. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/66 "2013-07-17T04:35:18Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > I’m allergic to mildew. Is overdew some sort of genetically modified, sentient, super-mildew? Yes, but you can immunize yourself by chugging three or four bottles of Tilex. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Ayebaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darth_ayebaw/32/9870_2.png) [@Darth\_Ayebaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Ayebaw)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/67 "2013-07-17T11:01:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Doesn’t the phrase “government by the people,” sound > desirable to every carnal minded person who hears it? Of > course it does. However, those who can see by the spirit > of Yahweh what government by the people has brought > upon this world certainly do not find this system of > government desirable. Uh… democratic nations are generally objectively better than non-democratic nations in all respects with the possible exception of military power… so yeah, I find it more desirable than a theocracy, and all the polls in democratic systems show the same… > [@](#): > > When will these things be? In answer to this question, > Yahshua responded in Mattithyah 24:6 that wars and > rumors of wars would continue throughout history. He > also said that these wars were not the end. We are now > living in the prophetic age Yahshua spoke of in Mattithyah > 24:6. Wars and rumors of wars are raging now as they > have done throughout the history of mankind. Except for the fact that we’re living through the most peaceful period humanity has ever experienced. You’re less likely to be killed by war now than at any time in recorded history. > [@](#): > > What besides nuclear war could destroy life from > one end of the earth to the other, while at the same time > destroying sea life? Meteor impacts, supervolcanos, verneshots, rising temperatures, theoretically gamma ray bursts, all sorts of things. > [@](#): > > Satan is the prince of the power of the air as you may > read for yourself in Ephesians 2:2. She has the power to > broadcast and is now broadcasting fear to all nations. Don’t you mean either princess, or he? > [@](#): > > Is mankind capable of bringing peace to this planet? The > shocking answer to this question is a resounding no! > Mankind has the capability of building weapons to destroy > the world. But weapons have never brought peace, only > more war. Neither have the many peace movements, > generated by concerned individuals and groups ever really > come near their goal. Except, again, we’re effectively at peace now. There are more deaths due to auto accidents than war. Nuclear weapons, strategic bombers, and ICBMs are simultaneously the deadliest weapons mankind has ever created, in addition to being the number one factor in keeping the Cold War relatively cool. Can we get a timeline on this supposed apocalypse? As to answering the thread title, I’ll chip in a solid “no”. Nuclear war is not coming. As a possible reality, it’s retreating slowly into the past. ---
**Author:** ![Phnord\_Prephect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Phnord\_Prephect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phnord_Prephect)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/68 "2013-07-17T14:14:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You can’t call another poster a moron in this forum. Don’t do it again. No, but you can call them many morons. > [@DaRoolz](#): > > And please note the difference between an insult directed against a person and an insult against a large group. > ACCEPTABLE: “Anyone who likes the music of Enema is soulless and lacks taste in music.” > NOT ACCEPTABLE: “You like Enema’s music? Then you’re soulless and have no taste in music.” Anyone who can’t tell the difference between one bible thumper and many is soulless and lacks taste in music. And will probably die with the rest of us in nuclear war. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/69 "2013-07-17T14:17:42Z")
> [@Phnord\_Prephect](#): > > No, but you can call them many morons. You can comment on Bible thumpers, whoever you think they may be, as a group. You can’t call another poster a Bible thumping moron, which is what **johnmont** did in that post. If you have any further comments or arguments, take them to ATMB. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/70 "2013-07-19T01:35:45Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Not necessarily. If there is a Satan and he and his army of hellspawn actually show up, vaporizing them all with nukes might prove useful… Has anybody used a nuke in D&D? 'Cuz that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/71 "2013-07-19T22:38:30Z")
Nukes in D&D? You bet! We also used phasers, holodecks, transporters, and photon torpedoes. We played a particularly robust variety of D&D! (If you’ve ever read Poul Anderson’s “The High Crusade,” you will have an inkling of how we got from point A to point Zeta-Zed-Zee-sub-Omega.) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/72 "2013-07-20T01:45:34Z")
The OP sounds like the sort of man who needs to drink more. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/73 "2013-07-20T17:57:02Z")
> [@aNewLeaf](#): > > You left out my favorite bit of child killing, the story with the bears. :mad: [Here you go](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q368kbzuiM). ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/74 "2013-07-21T05:18:55Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Nukes in D&D? You bet! We also used phasers, holodecks, transporters, and photon torpedoes. We played a particularly robust variety of D&D! > > (If you’ve ever read Poul Anderson’s “The High Crusade,” you will have an inkling of how we got from point A to point Zeta-Zed-Zee-sub-Omega.) But ζ-z-Z[sub]Ω[/sub] is certainly in a plural zone, you cannot get back to point A from there until you visit Stavro Müller Beta’s place and deal with Agrajag one final time. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/75 "2014-05-01T22:55:19Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Has anybody used a nuke in D&D? 'Cuz that would be awesome. Well, the original _Final Fantasy_ did have the black magic NUKE spell. And _Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord_ included the 8th-level spell TILTOWAIT, described in the rulebook as “equivalent to a nuclear blast, dealing 10-100 pts. of damage to all enemies.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/76 "2014-05-01T23:39:58Z")
Did you read that after casting Reanimate Dead on this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614/77 "2014-05-02T01:26:52Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > But ζ-z-Z[sub]Ω[/sub] is certainly in a plural zone, you cannot get back to point A from there until you visit Stavro Müller Beta’s place and deal with Agrajag one final time. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Did you read that after casting Reanimate Dead on this thread? Well, it gives me a chance to ask, does anyone have any idea whatever what **eschereal** said? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-war-is-it-really-coming/663614.md?page=3)