# Nude 17 Year Old Girls: Child Porn or Art? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289 "2003-01-22T21:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![galen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@galen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/41 "2003-02-21T16:24:43Z")
A strange country, this USA. If he can convince people to marry off their minor daughters, a man can actually have a [child bride](http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/Table_Marriage.htm) . ---
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/42 "2003-02-21T20:02:49Z")
You mean I can legally marry a 13 year old? No thank you! ---
**Author:** ![X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bbe5ce/32.png) [@X\_Slayer\_ALE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/X_Slayer_ALE)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/43 "2003-02-21T20:24:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skott \* > \*\*Well, if you’re speaking that they are not an adult according to the state law, then that is rather arbitrary, isn’t it? If you took them to different countries, they _would_ be a legal adult. > > The law is arbitrary and the only thing that truely defines an “adult” is being able to have children. \*\* Again, this is a simple matter of knowing what the law allows and does not allow. You want 17 year olds to pose nude, go to the country that allows it. They are protected here in the US, arbitrary or not, its the law. Contempt of the law is not a license to break it. If you think its appropriate here in the US, have the law changed first. I will guarantee you that if you lower the age of consent to 16, there will be some other dumbass who will get arrested for taking nude pictures of 15 year olds. Its not as arbitrary as you claim. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/44 "2003-02-21T23:57:11Z")
NH, USA, as that url says, a female can marry at the youngest age, but with exceptions: " Below age of consent parties need parental consent and permission of judge, no younger than 14 for males and 13 for females." ---
**Author:** ![hyperjes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@hyperjes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyperjes)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/45 "2003-02-22T03:58:08Z")
A seventeen year old is indeed a child. I remember being 17, and while I THOUGHT that I was an adult, looking back, I clearly WAS NOT. The age of consent varies from state to state, but I believe that generally, the two parties must be within certain age guidelines. Taking pictures of naked 17 year old girls may not be quite as disgusting as having sex with them, but it is still WRONG. Even though they had given their consent, as a rule, 17 year olds do not possess the same ability to consider the consequences of their actions as say, a 21 year old. He took advantage of their naivite (sp?) and their hopes of becoming models. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/46 "2003-02-22T04:47:29Z")
Scalini must be pretty stupid since he was previously charged for the same thing with a 15 year old in 1990 and had the charges dropped because she was too scared to testify. ---
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/47 "2003-02-22T05:12:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by hyperjes > Even though they had given their consent, as a rule, 17 year olds do not possess the same ability to consider the consequences of their actions as say, a 21 year old. hyperjes, by that argument (that having life experience and wits enough to weigh consequenses intelligently equates to adulthood) most 18 year olds and many 21 year olds aren’t “adult.” either. Shoot, I know 30 year olds that aren’t “adults” yet by your reasoning. I stand by what I said 100%. The age of 18 is arbitrary. ---
**Author:** ![hyperjes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@hyperjes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyperjes)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/48 "2003-02-22T11:29:18Z")
Yes, the age of 18 IS arbitrary, **prisoner6655321**. I agree. But the line must be drawn somewhere. This man knew where the line was. If he didn’t, he should have. So, now he must face the consequences of HIS actions. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/49 "2003-02-22T16:53:26Z")
Having sex with a 17 year old girl isn’t disgusting. Provided you are between 16 and perhaps, 19 IMHO. Anything past that in either direction? Yech. They are young adults, and should be able to relate and deal with other young adults. Having said that, the law is the law is the law. Moral code of a state is reflected in state law. Apparently, in the great state of New Hampshire, there is no moral code. YIPES :eek: ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2003, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289/50 "2003-02-22T17:15:46Z")
“Having sex with a 17 year old girl isn’t disgusting.” I can’t speak for experience on that one, but what’s disgusting about it to me, is that the tax payers more than likely have to pay for the kid. Which is probably why the age or consent in my state is 18… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nude-17-year-old-girls-child-porn-or-art/150289.md?page=2)