# Nut With Gun at Town Hall **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377 "2009-08-14T03:04:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/21 "2009-08-14T12:06:34Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > When the totality of the story is taken into account, this becomes much ado about nothing. Nobody was threatened in any way, unless of course you think that a gun is always threatening, in which case there’s nothing else to say. Precisely. I say all the power to him. I proudly open-carried my S&W M&P 9 mm while attending a local Tea Party Rally. Wish more would do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/22 "2009-08-14T12:09:17Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > For a revealing slice of right-tard insanity see the comments on this [report](http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A140QG0&show_article=1) on militias from the Southern Poverty Law Centre. I see nothing “insane” about those comments. Sounds like something I would say… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/23 "2009-08-14T12:38:04Z")
> [@Crazy McCuckoopants](#): > > OKC was an islamist operation. Say what? I can certainly understand why the police might want to have a few words with a guy with a gun standing outside a venue in which the President is speaking, especially given the potential meaning of the wording on the sign. But as he doesn’t seem to have been dragged off to some “Obamanation” re-education camp to become a Marxist, I vote “meh” for the whole issue. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/24 "2009-08-14T12:55:45Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I see nothing “insane” about those comments. Sounds like something I would say… 🙂 Well, point proven then. Seriously. Seek help. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/25 "2009-08-14T13:06:13Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > When the totality of the story is taken into account, this becomes much ado about nothing. Nobody was threatened in any way, unless of course you think that a gun is always threatening, in which case there’s nothing else to say. I don’t think it’s just the gun so much as the combination of gun + sign. [QUOTE=S\_M] I see nothing “insane” about those comments. Sounds like something I would say… [/QUOTE] Yeah, man. Death to the New World Order. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/26 "2009-08-14T13:06:42Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Precisely. > > I say all the power to him. I proudly open-carried my S&W M&P 9 mm while attending a local Tea Party Rally. Wish more would do the same. For what purpose I may ask? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/27 "2009-08-14T13:37:13Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > msnbc. Where he was asked if the gun was loaded, and replied, “Who would be silly enough to carry an unloaded firearm?” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/28 "2009-08-14T13:38:22Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I see nothing “insane” about those comments. Sounds like something I would say… 🙂 . . . No. Too easy. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/29 "2009-08-14T13:42:14Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > When the totality of the story is taken into account, this becomes much ado about nothing. Nobody was threatened in any way, unless of course you think that a gun is always threatening, in which case there’s nothing else to say. Oops, my bad. I should have mentioned in the OP that it wasn’t carrying the gun it was carrying a gun with a sign saying it’s TIME TO SPILL BLOOD to preserve freedom. I guess the first problem was when the democratic process worked and the wrong person got elected. But if we have enough people with guns who are willing to fix that little problem then democracy will be saved from itself. Because the only way to preserve democrarcy is to kill people when you don’t like the results. ---
**Author:** ![TheBaptiste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f6c823/32.png) [@TheBaptiste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheBaptiste)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/30 "2009-08-14T13:44:05Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > For what purpose I may ask? Because he can and America is a free country…for now. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/31 "2009-08-14T13:45:09Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > For what purpose I may ask? His sports car was in the shop. Seriously though, you have to carry a firearm in that situation; the place was full of nuts with guns. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/32 "2009-08-14T13:46:17Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > For what purpose I may ask? It’s a badge, just like a bumper sticker. It identifies him as part of the group and lets him feel like he’s not all alone. It’s the same as all those people who put American flag decals (not stickers - wouldn’t want to ruin the paint) on their cars after 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/33 "2009-08-14T13:50:40Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Free guns with every gay marriage. Government provided (socialist) gun safety classes. Concealed carry permits for every abortion doctor. Start the ARA: Atheist Rifle Association. [Found the Gay Communist Gun Club!](http://snltranscripts.jt.org/88/88cgunclub.phtml) ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/34 "2009-08-14T14:09:09Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > Not illegal, just mistaken. > > Something to keep in mind before this degenerates into a gun control flamefest. This bozo is to gun owners what Phred Phelps is to Christianity and Rush Limbaugh/Michael Moore are to politics. > > Entitled to his opinion, but nothing resembling the responsible majority. Arresting someone when you know he is not breaking the law is not against the law? How sad. > [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#): > > Um, he was holding a three-foot tall sign with a death threat on it. > > So now death threats are not threatening? It wasn’t a death threat. It was an attempt at intimidation I agree, but if it had gone over the line of actually being a death threat, they could have arrested him, since threatening to kill the President is a crime. My personal theory is that the SS wanted to arrest him, just on general principles, but were stopped by Obama. Anyone remember the guy that got arrested by the SS for refusing to shake Cheney’s hand? How do you thing this guy getting arrested would have went down with the wingnuts? He would not have just been on MSNBC, he would have been on FOX, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and anywhere else that could get him on. (But not on Comedy Central, they have standards.) Basically, I agree with Doors. It is a non-issue if you just ignore it. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Where he was asked if the gun was loaded, and replied, “Who would be silly enough to carry an unloaded firearm?” I have to admit, I also agree with him. If you are going to carry a gun, either concealed or open carry, it would be very silly to not have it loaded. A gun has one function, to fire bullets. If it can’t do that function, carrying it is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/35 "2009-08-14T14:11:54Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Government provided (socialist) gun safety classes. I could get behind that, to be honest. The second is there to defend the first, after all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/36 "2009-08-14T14:53:40Z")
> [@jcheckwood](#): > > Because he can and America is a free country…for now. And America will still be a free country if the Second Amendment is repealed and privately-owned firearms are banned. After all, the UK is a free country. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/37 "2009-08-14T14:58:16Z")
> [@Lok](#): > > I have to admit, I also agree with him. If you are going to carry a gun, either concealed or open carry, it would be very silly to not have it loaded. A gun has one function, to fire bullets. If it can’t do that function, carrying it is stupid. It has another function: To frighten/intimidate people. For that purpose, it need not be loaded. Police officers carry guns mainly so that they can be seen to carry guns; a cop who actually has to draw his weapon probably already has made at least one mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/38 "2009-08-14T15:15:53Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > Oops, my bad. I should have mentioned in the OP that it wasn’t carrying the gun it was carrying a gun with a sign saying it’s TIME TO SPILL BLOOD to preserve freedom. I guess the first problem was when the democratic process worked and the wrong person got elected. But if we have enough people with guns who are willing to fix that little problem then democracy will be saved from itself. Because the only way to preserve democrarcy is to kill people when you don’t like the results. The sign did not say that. The hyperbole is unnecessary. Look, I understand what the hubbub is about. I simply think that it’s nothing to get worked up about. You disagree, fine. I’m sure we disagree on a myriad of topics. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/39 "2009-08-14T15:17:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And America will still be a free country if the Second Amendment is repealed and privately-owned firearms are banned. After all, the UK is a free country. I suppose I must reconcile myself to the fact that this viewpoint will never go away. So be it. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377/40 "2009-08-14T15:22:17Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The sign did not say that. The hyperbole is unnecessary. > > Look, I understand what the hubbub is about. I simply think that it’s nothing to get worked up about. You disagree, fine. I’m sure we disagree on a myriad of topics. You know the words are from the quote “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants”. What other possible interpretation is there. Do you think he was a “pro-irrigation” supporter? Maybe that was a hose nozzle in his holster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nut-with-gun-at-town-hall/506377.md?page=3)