# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 112
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2222 "2024-02-18T10:56:31Z")
Taylor Swift is a genuine billionaire. She’s got way more money than Trump. So does Rhianna. And probably Beyonce. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2223 "2024-02-18T11:02:12Z")
And Taylor has a real career, Donald just lost his and is reduced to trying to selll tennis shoes to people who boo him. Hmm, may be fun to start a thread on all the ways Taylor is better than Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2224 "2024-02-18T12:28:11Z")
I think the clue to how much real wealth Trump has was given away when he started having to run a game show for a living. The rest has gone. So when the fine is actually being collected, the drama will really start. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2225 "2024-02-18T12:39:28Z")
I guess all those venues and and cities that hosted Trump campaign events and got stiffed ae going to have to wait a little longer to collect. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2226 "2024-02-18T14:41:50Z")
The 12th of Never? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2227 "2024-02-18T15:32:42Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > I think the clue to how much real wealth Trump has was given away when he started having to run a game show for a living. I see both sides of this. His narcissism and ego are the driving force in what Trump does. Now he claims he’s a ‘star’ like he’s Bogart or something. They did put a star on the Hollywood walk of fame for some unfathomable reason. 🤢 Don’t know if it’s still there, it got defaced a LOT. I blame the whole mess on NBC canceling his stupid show. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2228 "2024-02-18T15:46:42Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > all the ways Taylor is better than Donald It would have to be an omnibus thread in the BBQ forum ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2229 "2024-02-18T15:56:47Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > They did put a star on the Hollywood walk of fame for some unfathomable reason. 🤢 Don’t know if it’s still there, it got defaced a LOT. My understanding is that it’s not like an award or anything, you pretty much just have to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2230 "2024-02-18T15:59:01Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > My understanding is that it’s not like an award or anything, you pretty much just have to pay for it. I suspect they are still waiting for payment, because he’s a ‘star’. But thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2231 "2024-02-18T16:02:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > They did put a star on the Hollywood walk of fame for some unfathomable reason. 🤢 Don’t know if it’s still there, it got defaced a LOT. More or less anyone who has been on tv or film that was reasonably successful can get a star for a $75k fee if someone nominates them. A private committee gets to decide. The whole thing is bullshit but at the time he was selected he had the beauty pageants and the reality shows and it was far from controversial and there were many less deserving people on there. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2232 "2024-02-18T16:37:56Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > It would have to be an omnibus thread in the BBQ forum Yeah, my bad, should have posted a silly comment like this in the Schadenfreude thread, not an appropriate hijack here. We have plenty to digest in a serious analysis of how Trump is in deep shit financially. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2233 "2024-02-18T17:38:25Z")
Found a helpful video posted by the Wall Street Journal, interviewing a senior NY corporate lawyer, analysing the decision: > **[Trump’s $355 Million Penalty: New York Lawyer Explains Civil-Fraud Ruling](https://www.wsj.com/video/series/on-the-news/trumps-355-million-penalty-new-york-lawyer-explains-civil-fraud-ruling/AF0043D2-C816-403C-BD7D-CB3A441EC5DE)** > > A New York judge ordered Donald Trump and his business to pay $355 million for misrepresenting his wealth for financial gain. Veteran New York trial and appellate lawyer Mark Zauderer explains what’s at stake for Trump’s business empire. Photo... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2234 "2024-02-18T17:39:40Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > More or less anyone who has been on tv or film that was reasonably successful can get a star for a **$75k fee** if someone nominates them Did Trump’s cheque clear? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2235 "2024-02-18T17:52:07Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Ooh, I have a better one. We need a countdown to when Taylor Swift’s net worth is proven to exceed Donald Trump’s. It may have done so already, but it definitely needs to be stuck in Donald’s face when we have some reliable accounting and we’re sure. I’m pretty sure my net worth exceeds Trump’s. Yours probably does too. Positive numbers are generally agreed to be larger than negative ones. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2236 "2024-02-18T17:53:17Z")
Actually, many Walk of Fame stars are bought by fan groups via donations. [https://lamag.com/music/weird-al-walk-of-fame](https://lamag.com/music/weird-al-walk-of-fame) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2237 "2024-02-18T18:23:59Z")
They all are, ostensibly. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2238 "2024-02-18T18:31:16Z")
Apparently, the truth social network is valued at 10 billion, and he’s got about 60 odd percentage ownership in it, and thus, by mistake, he might have actually become rich in recent times, after a history of failed businesses, overextended loans and fraud. I hate to think that he’s actually successfully made money in recent times, via his hate speech, and overvaluing of US tech stocks, I mean microblogging can’t be worth that much, or is it the gateway into the moronsphere of his supporters? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2239 "2024-02-18T18:38:54Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > Apparently, the truth social network is valued at 10 billion, … Apologies for being That Poster, but would you please point me to where I might read about this? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2240 "2024-02-18T18:39:41Z")
Apparently so, Trump’s stake in Truth Social is worth about $4 billion. > **[Truth Social merger deal wins key approval, a victory for Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/15/truth-social-trump-merger-sec/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzA4MjMyNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzA5NjE0Nzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MDgyMzI0MDAsImp0aSI6Ijg5MmJmMTE1LWNhMTEtNDRmMi1iMjhkLTJlYjdhOTI5OTJhMCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS90ZWNobm9sb2d5LzIwMjQvMDIvMTUvdHJ1dGgtc29jaWFsLXRydW1wLW1lcmdlci1zZWMvIn0.qn7f67SnaBUbU7Jr5MdYfTpo2JDTRFwFYK4RdM9gJvc&itid=gfta)** > > Trump will hold more than 78 million shares in the post-merger company, a filing shows — a stake that, at current prices, would be worth more than $4 billion. (gift link) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2241 "2024-02-18T18:39:49Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > Apparently, the truth social network is valued at 10 billion, and he’s got about 60 odd percentage ownership in it, and thus, by mistake, he might have actually become rich in recent times, after a history of failed businesses, overextended loans and fraud. Assuming he can find a buyer for some of his stake, he’s good to go. And that further assumes there’s no lien [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=111) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=113)