# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2662 "2024-03-18T23:13:13Z")
How about threaten to confiscate via eminent domain or similar if it is sold? What about, in the case of a “club” threaten a rezoning making operation impractical/impossible? How about cutting water or electricity services if it is sold? (does the state own the utility companies?) How about some form of special additional tax if it is sold, applicable only to that club? None of them legal - but what if he imposes first and forces and new owner to fight it our in court? ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2663 "2024-03-18T23:24:32Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > He literally has his own pet “state guard,” so yeah. That was my thought: “… or other duties as may occasionally be assigned.” > **[Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signs bill creating election police force](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/desantis-florida-election-police-force-bill/)** > > At a bill signing ceremony Monday at a sports bar in Spring Hill, Florida, DeSantis suggested that existing law enforcement may not be equipped or willing to thoroughly investigate fraud cases. ETA: Not dead yet: > **[Gov. DeSantis seeking $2.2 million for election police force](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648312-gov-ron-desantis-seeking-2-2-million-for-election-police-force/)** > > The Legislature last year gave the unit less than the administration wanted. ETA2: I’m probably veering too far OT, so I shall flog myself mercilessly and get back with the program. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2664 "2024-03-18T23:28:43Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > De Santos has limited powers. Aha! So that’s where George has been since the the state of the union. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2665 "2024-03-18T23:52:05Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > ETA: I found it. It was started on Feb 24, so nope its not keeping up with the interest payments. I haven’t seen Trump promoting his Go Fund Me at any of his rallies. What’s up with that? [It’s unclear why the Trump GoFundMe has come to a halt despite starting off strong by raising over $1M in a week. However, the ex-president, who is currently in the middle of a re-election campaign, has yet to publicly acknowledge the GoFundMe launched on his behalf.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/donald-trump-355m-gofundme-stalls-010840184.html) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2666 "2024-03-18T23:56:53Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I haven’t seen Trump promoting his Go Fund Me at any of his rallies. What’s up with that? WAG: he’s not particularly interested in money that isn’t going through a political machine that he controls. He’ll take what the fundraiser raises, but he’s not going to promote it over his own grifts. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2667 "2024-03-19T00:14:10Z")
Lol! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2668 "2024-03-19T00:20:44Z")
If the New York courts attempt to seize assets in Florida, and Florida attempts to stop them, isn’t there some way the feds could step in to enforce Full Faith and Credit? ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2669 "2024-03-19T00:20:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > He’ll take what the fundraiser raises, but he’s not going to promote it over his own grifts. NAY… he doesn’t want to admit he’s broke. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2670 "2024-03-19T00:21:58Z")
To be clear, NY doesn’t get to start seizing assets immediately. They’ll need a court order first. I’m guessing he doesn’t pay the state cash, so we’ll see the AG file a motion with the court to obtain other means of enforcement. Remember, the wheels of justice do move slowly, much like a vice squeezing the balls of a wannabe tough guy. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2671 "2024-03-19T00:28:02Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > To be clear, NY doesn’t get to start seizing assets immediately. They’ll need a court order first. While I fear we may be getting ahead of ourselves (he probably will find some way to finagle a bond), does the court have to issue an order for each and every seizure, or can the state obtain a blanket order (“_take as much of his shit as is needed to satisfy the judgement, within normal bounds_”) or one order with a list of items? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2672 "2024-03-19T00:32:31Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I haven’t seen Trump promoting his Go Fund Me at any of his rallies. What’s up with that? Probably for a coupl;e of reasons 1. As Johny\_Bravo said It is directly competing with his own fund raising apparatuses which are far more profitable and probably have less overhead. The GoFundMe site has got to take a share of the donations to keep itself going, and there are lawyers involved in managing the fund who also probably cost money, so he would much rather have the donation go directly to him. 2. Optics. From Trump’s point of view GoFundMe is for poor losers who can’t pay their bills, and need help. This doesn’t fit the image that Trump is trying to project. Trump is an incredibly wealthy highly successful businessman whose deals always make huge amount of money. So he has no difficulty what-so-ever in paying his bills and doesn’t need anyone’s help. What needs help is America and Freedom and Purity. As rich as he is Trump can’t fight alone against the armies of darkness who would destroy America, so it is necessary that you give all your money to Trump so that he can put it where its most needed (i.e. his pocket) But that isn’t because he’s a poor like that loser who can’t pay for her daughter’s cancer treatment and so has to go begging on GoFundMe. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2673 "2024-03-19T00:46:06Z")
3: The GoFundMe was set up by someone else on his behalf. Which means that that person is going to take an “operating expenses” cut, which is going to be about 98% of what’s left after GFM’s cut. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2674 "2024-03-19T01:11:39Z")
Grift Grift Grift your bloat gently down the stream. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2675 "2024-03-19T01:25:36Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The state hasn’t been sitting on their hands. They are locked and loaded and will execute as soon as the week is up. Exactly. They’ve already done the deep dive into his assets and know just which are the prime ones to go after. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2676 "2024-03-19T01:29:39Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > He can wave his hands around and make weird faces at the camera and talk about how it’s a miscarriage of justice in his weird almost-human voice. I expect that’s what Ron is gonna do. And if he’s smart – note the conditional – he’d make a huge public fuss but do nothing concrete to block the damage to the guy he desperately wants to replace as leader of the MAGA pack. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2677 "2024-03-19T01:40:46Z")
Exactly. DeSantis doesn’t want to actually prevent the NY from stealing all of Trump’s stuff, he wants to convince the MAGAs that he did everything he could to prevent NY from stealing all of Trump’s stuff. So lots of sound a fury signifying nothing is what he’s going for here. ETA: this was responding to EddyTeddyFreddy’s post directly above mine not to Cervaise directly. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2678 "2024-03-19T02:32:13Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Exactly. They’ve already done the deep dive into his assets and know just which are the prime ones to go after. There’s a line from the movie, Intolerable Cruelty, that keeps running through my brain: “She’s gonna nail his ass!” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2679 "2024-03-19T02:51:43Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > That was my thought: “… or other duties as may occasionally be assigned.” $2.2 BILLION to hunt unicorns and other imaginary creatures??? 🙄 All the while trying to shut down Floridas largest taxpaying company and employer??? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2680 "2024-03-19T02:52:41Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Exactly. They’ve already done the deep dive into his assets and know just which are the prime ones to go after. I agree, but I’d like to see them actually act. I know we’ll have to wait a while (a week, is it?), but when NY moves against the first of whatever they have chosen to seize/collect, I’m sure that Donnie will react, and not in a nice way. He may claim “election interference,” and that may play well to his supporters, but really, all he is, is a debtor, ordered by a court to pay a creditor. That’s it, that’s all; orders to pay a creditor happen every day in courtrooms everywhere. ---
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> [@Moriarty](#): > > Remember, the wheels of justice do move slowly, much like a vice squeezing the balls of a wannabe tough guy. Especially on white collar crime- something I had to say over and over to SDMBers who thought they should arrest trump within days of his leaving office. > [@dougrb](#): > > Grift Grift Grift your bloat gently down the stream. It’s all grifts, all the way down. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=135)