# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 135
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2682 "2024-03-19T02:59:54Z")
DeSantis: “Just look at all those polling places with presumably democratic voters. It would be a shame if anything happened to them wouldn’t it? Oh look I have this private police force here that I’m not doing anything with…” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2683 "2024-03-19T03:07:58Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > DeSantis: “Just look at all those polling places with presumably democratic voters. It would be a shame if anything happened to them wouldn’t it? Oh look I have this private police force here that I’m not doing anything with… “That black guy look suspicious. Better question him.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2684 "2024-03-19T03:21:28Z")
Yet Florida doesn’t matter. It will go for DJT no matter what. Same for Texas. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina are the potential swing states this year. Biden doesn’t need them all but he does need several in order to win. I will be shocked if his campaign doesn’t focus on them. Sorry, dropping the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2685 "2024-03-19T03:25:19Z")
Moderating: > [@Jihi](#): > > DeSantis: “Just look at all those polling places with presumably democratic voters. It would be a shame if anything happened to them wouldn’t it? Oh look I have this private police force here that I’m not doing anything with…” > [@DrDeth](#): > > “That black guy look suspicious. Better question him.” > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Yet Florida doesn’t matter. It will go for DJT no matter what. Same for Texas. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Sorry, dropping the hijack. Yes, thank you. I was wondering why you all are discussing this in t his thread. Please drop it now and if you wish to carry on the discussion, there are several other threads better suited. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2686 "2024-03-19T03:48:34Z")
Deleted per mod note. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2687 "2024-03-19T08:26:58Z")
Trump says the reason he can’t get a bond is because bonds of this size don’t exist. Ah, yes, a bigly bond, the biggest bond in the history of bonds. I’m sure they would love to help him but they just can’t. > [@Truth Social](#): > > A bond of the size set by the Democrat Club-controlled Judge, in Corrupt, Racist Letitia James’ unlawful Witch Hunt, is unConstitutional, un-American, unprecedented, and practically impossible for ANY Company, including one as successful as mine. The Bonding Companies have never heard of such a bond, of this size, before, nor do they have the ability to post such a bond, even if they wanted to… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2688 "2024-03-19T09:00:35Z")
> [@Truth Social](#): > > Letitia James’ unlawful Witch Hunt, is unConstitutional, un-American, unprecedented, and practically impossible I’m disappointed he didn’t say “unpossible”. ![](https://media1.tenor.com/m/ebVehuP45x8AAAAC/ralph-wiggum-simpsons.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2689 "2024-03-19T09:52:29Z")
If the state grabs Trump Tower, does Trump get time to move all of his gaudy stuff out? I’d be deeply amused if it turns out he had more documents there. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2690 "2024-03-19T13:04:30Z")
That’s exactly what I thought when I read that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2691 "2024-03-19T13:25:28Z")
> [@Truth Social](#): > > The Bonding Companies have never heard of such a bond, of this size, before, Actually the largest supersedeas bond in US history was the one that Texaco had to put up in the Pennzoil-Texaco case: $13 billion. Drove Texaco into bankruptcy. Supreme Court declined to review the alleged constitutional issue So, Trump’s measly little half billion bond doesn’t even make the running of biglyest ever. What a piker! > **[Pennzoil](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennzoil)** > > Pennzoil is an American motor oil brand currently owned by Shell plc. The former Pennzoil Company had been established in 1913 in Pennsylvania, being active in business as an independent firm until it was acquired by Shell in 2002, becoming a brand of the conglomerate. > Origins of the company can be traced to the "South Penn Oil Company", an oil business started in Oil City, Pennsylvania by Michael Late Benedum and Joe Trees in May 1889 as a unit of Standard Oil. It became the largest oil produce... ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2692 "2024-03-19T14:01:36Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Trump says the reason he can’t get a bond is because bonds of this size don’t exist. Ah, yes, a bigly bond, the biggest bond in the history of bonds. I’m sure they would love to help him but they just can’t. [Ninja’d, dammit] Trumps twuth snipped for brevity (I hated doing that, it is such a piece). But, the size of the judgement (and, therefore bond) is precedented. … ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2693 "2024-03-19T14:20:23Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > But, the size of the judgement (and, therefore bond) is precedented. … Yes, but it might lead to un-presidenting… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2694 "2024-03-19T14:55:19Z")
Or to put it anohter way - “The bond companies will no longer take me at my word when it comes to how much money i have or what my properties are worth” ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2695 "2024-03-19T15:23:34Z")
Is there anything that would prevent getting five separate bonds for under $100m each from different insurers? Set aside the question of how he would secure each bond. I’m only asking about the statement that it’s impossible because insurers won’t issue bonds that large. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2696 "2024-03-19T15:37:00Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Is there anything that would prevent getting five separate bonds for under $100m each from different insurers? I think I read that in his whimper to the court, he said he tried that, and the insurers were like, “naw dog we’re good.” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2697 "2024-03-19T15:43:05Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > I’m only asking about the statement that it’s impossible because insurers won’t issue bonds that large. It’s not impossible. I’ve seen 300 to 400 million bonds in cases I’ve worked on. But, yes, it could be split up. Obviously, it could get complicated. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2698 "2024-03-19T15:45:05Z")
Especially if he offered the same properties as collateral to each bonding company. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2699 "2024-03-19T15:48:54Z")
They’d certainly coordinate with one another. Moot point obviously. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2700 "2024-03-19T15:51:44Z")
True dat. My WAG is that he doesn’t have enough equity unencumbered by mortgages and such to support a bond in the first place. ETA: And no bonding company is going to accept being second, third, fourth in line on collateral. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/2701 "2024-03-19T16:07:30Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > …I’m only asking about the statement that it’s impossible because insurers won’t issue bonds that large. As mentioned in Northern Piper’s post a few posts before, in Pennzoil v. Texaco the bond posted by Texaco was **13 billion**. So as usual DJT is either lying or doesn’t know what he’s talking about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=134) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=136)