# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\]

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\
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I hope he graduates to simple assault. Tries to pummel her with his tiny soft baby hands. And is wrestled to the ground.

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I think it’s worth mentioning that in NY State “The Supreme Court” is not the highest appeals court (although it does have an appellate division)

Just curious: what do they call the one that _is_ the highest appeals court?

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/424 "2023-10-02T18:43:55Z")

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> [@Washington Post](#):
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> On his way out of the courtroom, Donald Trump hovered right over New York Attorney General Letitia James, who was still seated in the front row. Standing about a foot away from her, Trump leaned over and glared.

Imagine getting that far in life and thinking something like that would be intimidating to anyone, but especially to a successful and powerful woman who has already wiped the floor with his attorneys.

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> what do they call the one that _is_ the highest appeals court?

The New York Court of Appeals.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/426 "2023-10-02T19:02:30Z")

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I sorta wish she’d have stood up and turned around and went nose-to-nose, like boxers, and with raised eyebrows shouted in his face “WHAT?!?!”

![](https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZmthOXIxb2E0NjN3N2FiemczY2xrZnJpOWNyZ3Jrcnd0c2JjNjdybSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/aPyliU7cNPW0a2IhaU/giphy.gif)

But she appears to be too professional for that.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/427 "2023-10-02T19:08:44Z")

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> [@Washington Post](#):
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> Standing about a foot away from her, Trump leaned over and glared.

Oh, I hope footage of that gets posted!

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/428 "2023-10-02T19:11:59Z")

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> [@mjmartin](#):
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> Imagine getting that far in life and thinking something like that would be intimidating to anyone,

I have no doubt it has worked many many many times. He is a person of immense privilege and power, and he’s physically large as well. She is a woman of color who has dared to get in his way.

He’s just too angry and has his head too far up his own ass to understand why it wouldn’t work **just then**.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/429 "2023-10-02T19:13:12Z")

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There was footage of ag James staring him down earlier this morning.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/430 "2023-10-02T19:18:27Z")

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First of the month datalanche, unfortunately. I don’t have time to look for it. I’m hoping I happen to see it on Yahoo or something.

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No hyperbole here, but I thought Trump was going to cry while speaking with the press at lunch.

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Did he have tears in his eyes? Was he calling the judge “sir”?

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/433 "2023-10-02T19:40:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The proceedings paused for a lunch break shortly before 1 p.m.

I didn’t know McDonalds had grocery store sized bags.  
(Real picture, from today)

> **[Donald Trump Gets McDonald's Delivered To Court During Civil Fraud Trial](https://www.tmz.com/2023/10/02/donald-trump-mcdonalds-delivered-court-civil-fraud-trial/)**
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> Donald Trump gets McDonald's delivered to court as his civil fraud trial kicks off.

[![](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/9e/o/2023/10/02/9e64563fab754bd3b6ecf39284ad2f2b.jpg) ](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/9e/o/2023/10/02/9e64563fab754bd3b6ecf39284ad2f2b.jpg)

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/434 "2023-10-02T19:46:22Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I didn’t know McDonalds had grocery store sized bags.

He’s eating his feelings. donald is liable to gain 20 pounds just this week!

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Ok, this is good…

> <https://twitter.com/robisraelart/status/1708909433991160066?t=22UlQh8ntEMP6TM3C0wRhw&s=19>

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[Montgomery Burns] Excellent. [/Burns]

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/437 "2023-10-02T19:58:26Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> This article suggests Trump could comply with the order to dissolve his businesses by having his wife Melania and/or daughter Ivanka set up their own companies and transfer everything to one or the other or both.

IANAL but I know this doesnt work for taxes owed or in bankruptcy.

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**Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/438 "2023-10-02T20:08:40Z")

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CNN described the lunch break encounter as:

"New York State Attorney General Letitia James sat in the front row on the other side of the courtroom, behind the former president and about 15 feet to his right.

The former president only once looked at James, as he left the courtroom for the lunch break, turning his head as he walked past where she was seated.

**Eric Trump stopped and shook her hands using both of his hands as he followed his father out of the courtroom."**

Jesus, that has to have been the weirdest minute of her law career. First daddy Trump tries to stare her down, then the idiot son grabs her in a bizarre handshake. .

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Ok, this is good…

For the moment it’s _Full House_, soon it might be _Big House_.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> IANAL but I know this doesnt work for taxes owed or in bankruptcy.

Wouldn’t any transfer have to be for fair market value? Would likely depend on the exact terms of the judge’s order, and it’s clear from the proceedings last week that the judge is still working on the details, with submissions from the lawyers from the AG NY and Trump.

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I didn’t know McDonalds had grocery store sized bags.

As the article suggested, there are at least six bags of food. Just how big is his entourage?

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