# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\]

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\
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> [@snowthx](#):
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> It **bagels** the mind.

Typo or intentional?

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/683 "2023-10-13T16:18:21Z")

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Intentional. Whenever I hear or use the phrase I always revert to that for some reason.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/684 "2023-10-13T16:34:03Z")

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Well, these folks are definitely using bread dough for brains when they decide to throw in with trump, so it seems an apt expression. 😉

And one I will be using going forward. Thank you. Your royalty check would be in the mail, but trump’s postmaster sorta put that business out to pasture.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/685 "2023-10-13T16:34:47Z")

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> **"End of Bagel Distraction, as per What Exit?"**
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> > [@snowthx](#):
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> > Whenever I hear or use the phrase I always revert to that for some reason
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> Well, having a load of bagels hitting you in the head would be kind of disorienting. “Was that a bagel? Is someone throwing them?!?”
> 
> [https://youtu.be/xlwTF3MU6kI?si=LxQ5wYgs3NAPNjwd](https://youtu.be/xlwTF3MU6kI?si=LxQ5wYgs3NAPNjwd)

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/686 "2023-10-13T16:51:42Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Forbes comes with receipts on Thursday.

So the timeline goes:

Oct 4: Forbes publishes its list of wealthiest assholes, sans Trump.  
Oct 10: Trump goes off on Forbes for being globalist, communist, etc. He demands a full apology.  
Oct 11: Forbes presumably discussed how best to apologize to Trump.  
Oct 12: Forbes publishes its apology in the form of an article about a bunch of incriminating emails the NYAG didn’t have. Yet.

Oop.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/687 "2023-10-13T17:01:01Z")

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> **End of Bagel Distraction, as per What Exit?**
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> > [@Horatius](#):
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> > Well, having a load of bagels hitting you in the head would be kind of disorienting. “Was that a bagel? Is someone throwing them?!?”
> 
> Or even just one:
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> [https://preview.redd.it/rd1nnw9n92381.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c77ad82fcec40c8001dda652bec1618006d11daf](https://preview.redd.it/rd1nnw9n92381.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c77ad82fcec40c8001dda652bec1618006d11daf)

> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> So the timeline goes:
> 
> Oct 4: Forbes publishes its list of wealthiest assholes, sans Trump.  
> Oct 10: Trump goes off on Forbes for being globalist, communist, etc. He demands a full apology.  
> Oct 11: Forbes presumably discussed how best to apologize to Trump.  
> Oct 12: Forbes publishes its apology in the form of an article about a bunch of incriminating emails the NYAG didn’t have. Yet.
> 
> Oop.

It’s all part of his ingenious plan. Which will be revealed in two weeks…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/688 "2023-10-13T17:05:53Z")

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Hey Donald!

Remember all those people you stepped on, on your way up?

They remember you, on your way down.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/689 "2023-10-13T17:09:08Z")

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> Yet, there appears to be no shortage of otherwise smart people willing to throw it all way for that loser.

These people are not smart, they are criminals with credentials. Driven by greed and blinded by the fact that they got away with their high crimes for so long that they think that they actually are too big to fail.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/690 "2023-10-13T17:12:00Z")

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Yeah, Weisselberg got a ton of perks working for Trump. He just had to turn his conscience off.

(almost typed “conscious” which is almost as true).

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/691 "2023-10-13T17:19:42Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> So the timeline goes:
> 
> Oct 4: Forbes publishes its list of wealthiest assholes, sans Trump.  
> Oct 10: Trump goes off on Forbes for being globalist, communist, etc. He demands a full apology.  
> Oct 11: Forbes presumably discussed how best to apologize to Trump.  
> Oct 12: Forbes publishes its apology in the form of an article about a bunch of incriminating emails the NYAG didn’t have. Yet.
> 
> Oop.

Pissing off people who own a really big media franchise is usually a good way to persuade them to use it against you. Seems trump can’t even play tic-tac-toe.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/692 "2023-10-13T17:23:24Z")

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Greener’s Law: Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel.

Well played, Forbes. Well played.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/693 "2023-10-13T17:43:52Z")

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**Moderating**

**To all:** No more on the Bagels. It is at least a distraction and verging on a hijack.

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I think it’s appropriate to keep the following question here, because it deals specifically with the Trump Org and the NY cases, but if they do smack Weisselberg with perjury charges, especially in light of several other heavy shadings of the truth that have come up to date, is NY going to to be able to pull the consideration he got in [his own conviction](https://apnews.com/article/allen-weisselberg-trump-cfo-plea-deal-e36dbd47ee3b0323e1fa102117718011#:~:text=The%20judge%20said%20Weisselberg%20will,in%20October%20on%20related%20charges.)?

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Does side Trump get use this to paint his testimony against Trump as unreliable?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/696 "2023-10-13T18:39:31Z")

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He could try the Louis Renault approach:

> [@](#):
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> **Trump** : I’m shocked, shocked to find that my CFO was misleading me on financial details!
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> **Flunky** : The financial statements you signed, sir.
> 
> **Trump** : Oh yes, thank you.

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> He could try the Louis Renault approach:

If only he had half of the class of Renault.

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And I doubt _anyone_ has had a beautiful friendship with him.

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> <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1714285487618396669>

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Welp, per Wiki Mar a Lardo is 62,500 square feet. So that pencils out as a paltry $230,769 per square foot. I think that’s reasonable, don’t you?

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> [@](#):
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> He also claims Mar-a-Lago is “the most expensive house, probably, in the world”

So if I were to put in a bid for the White House for say USD1.5bil, I’d get knocked over in the rush to accept it?

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