# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/782 "2023-10-26T02:58:05Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > the judge required Trump to take the stand, questioned him about what he meant, and when told it was about Cohen, not the clerk, flat-out told Trump he didn’t believe him. And that is a finding of credibility by the judge that is almost impossible to overturn on appeal, so this particular ruling will stand. Plus, if Trump testifies again, the judge can refer back to this episode as a basis for future findings of credibility. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/783 "2023-10-26T04:36:30Z")
I wonder if this is going to turn into “Trump gets upset and says something and hauled into court, gets fined, gets upset and says something and gets hauled into court” until he gets jailed for good/dies of apoplexy. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/784 "2023-10-26T04:46:41Z")
Not so much a trial as a hokey-cokey. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/785 "2023-10-26T06:52:17Z")
“I’m charging you with contempt of everything!” ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/786 "2023-10-26T13:39:43Z")
> [@simster](#): > > basically, a fucking swear jar. Trump will happily drop 10k here and there to ‘speak his mind’. I disagree. The man is tighter than a ducks arse. He’d teach scrooge a lesson. And not as rich as pretends too. And not even sensible, failing to pay his lawyers before and codefendents/now state witnesses against him, getting him arguably into this position in the first place. It might seem that he doesn’t have a problem dropping 10K to insult someone, but spending money like that will make him seethe… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/787 "2023-10-26T13:42:39Z")
> [@Smid](#): > > It might seem that he doesn’t have a problem dropping 10K to insult someone, but spending money like that will make him seethe… He’ll just crank up the Grift-O-Matic 3000 and pull in the money to replace it. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/788 "2023-10-26T13:44:10Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He’ll just crank up the Grift-O-Matic 3000 and pull in the money to replace it. But that will be HIS money, like campaign donations. And it won’t remove the SEEETHEEE. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/789 "2023-10-26T13:49:54Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > He’ll just crank up the Grift-O-Matic 3000 and pull in the money to replace it. Das righ! Fire-up Fleece-a-Rube dot com with the mewling pleas of persecution and “Ow! That judge is so mean to me!” and that will get some cash coming in. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/790 "2023-10-26T13:51:36Z")
What if he argues that insulting people brings in his legal fees? I know it’s preposterous, but it’s the defense I expect his lawyers to trot out. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/791 "2023-10-26T13:55:42Z")
So what? The world is full of illegal activities that are profitable. It doesn’t even rise to the level of an argument. “Your honor, I know it’s against the law to sell meth to high schoolers, but how else am I supposed to pay my defense attorney?” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/792 "2023-10-26T14:03:04Z")
It’s like you don’t even care that The Man is trying to keep him down! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/793 "2023-10-26T14:24:56Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > The Man is trying to keep him down! A white man, born to wealth, who has lived his whole life in unearned luxury with deference from the legions of yes-men that surround him, failing upwards into the most powerful political office in the world? Donald Trump **is** The Man. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/794 "2023-10-26T15:10:24Z")
there was a report that trump and his lawyers went back in the court for about 90ish seconds after his “tantrum”. i’m betting it was a warning about his behaivour. the table slam and walkout. this is one man that just has no control, or filter, and he has finally come up against the force of the court. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/795 "2023-10-26T15:30:17Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > this is one man that just has no control, or filter h/t to (former GW Bush WH Communications Director) MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace who framed this as: > I have vizslas, so all of the training of that breed is about impulse control: teaching them not to run after the squirrel and not to roll in horse poop,” she said. “Trump has less impulse control than a hunting dog. Couldn’t keep himself out of trouble. Ayup. That about sums it up. Woof. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/796 "2023-10-26T15:31:43Z")
It doesn’t help that Trump seems to really enjoy rolling in the poop. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/797 "2023-10-26T15:58:14Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > …he has finally come up against the force of the court. It’s about effing time. My faith in the justice system of this country has been, shall we say, challenged over the last few years. I hope they get it right after all this time, at least with one of these cases. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/798 "2023-10-27T18:02:59Z")
[Judge orders Ivanka Trump to testify in $250 million fraud case](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-orders-ivanka-trump-testify-250-million-fraud-case-rcna122482) Oh boy. ( _rubs hands gleefully_) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/799 "2023-10-27T18:18:52Z")
I can see it now. “Ivanka, nice inheritance you’re gonna get. Be a shame if anything happened to it.” But Trump’s other kids are going to testify too. From @slumtrimpet 's NBC item: > [@](#): > > Kevin Wallace of the AG’s office said they plan on calling Donald Trump Jr. to the stand on Wednesday, Eric Trump on Thursday and Ivanka Trump on Friday, and then their father on Monday, Nov. 6. Wallace said the AG’s office will rest their case following Trump’s testimony. I think that Ivanka will give reliable testimony—didn’t she try to distance herself from her father’s 2024 campaign when he announced it? Not that she wants to see her father in more trouble than he already is, but she strikes me as someone in that organization who at least has some sense of ethical behaviour. I’m somewhat less sure that Don Jr. and Eric will testify truthfully. They strike me as the rats who were too stupid to leave the sinking ship. But a prosecutor skilled at questioning can get them to perjure themselves, should they seem to be less-than-honest on the stand. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/800 "2023-10-27T18:26:10Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > but she strikes me as someone in that organization who at least has some sense of ethical behaviour. I see her as more being aware that she is the only Trump that has a chance of maintaining a brand from the ashes from the Trump Empires downfall. The brand being IVANKA and not Trump. What she has is business sense and a sense of self preservation, both of which her dad lacks. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/801 "2023-10-27T18:45:19Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > The brand being IVANKA and not Trump. What she has is business sense and a sense of self preservation, both of which her dad lacks. Plus, I suspect she’s been smart enough to extract as much from Trump Sr. as possible in the last 20 years or so. Her idiot brothers though? Not so much. I imagine they’re relying entirely on inheriting the empire, as failsons tend to do. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991.md?page=41)