# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/862 "2023-11-01T22:42:46Z")
I hope, somewhere along the line (and yes, we’ve all be saying that for a while) that the rest of the people in Trump Org who are being ever so clearly thrown under the bus by this sort of testimony decide they’ve had enough going to jail for the Trumps and produce notes, emails, or other documentation showing that Jr damn well knew what was going on. At least in general, but yeah, he probably isn’t trusted or bright enough to go with specifics. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/863 "2023-11-01T22:44:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I relied on smarter people to tell me where to put my name on the paperwork. So, the only person he exonerated in his testimony was Eric. Right, then. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/864 "2023-11-01T22:55:14Z")
I know Eric is always proclaimed to be the idiot of the group, but I just heard someone on MSNBC talking about the Trump clan. He sounded like someone familiar with the family and it sounds like Junior is the stupid one and Eric is the one who was really running things when Donald was the President. I don’t recall the name of the person making the claim or if he really knows what he’s talking about though. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/865 "2023-11-01T22:59:26Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > > I relied on smarter people to tell me where to put my name on the paperwork. > > So, the only person he exonerated in his testimony was Eric. > > Right, then. You know how they call Mick and Keith “The Glimmer Twins”? I think I’m going to start referring to Eric and Junior as “The Dimmer Twins”. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/866 "2023-11-01T23:16:56Z")
From @Euphonious_Polemic 's post, a few posts up: > [@](#): > > I’m not even sure if these are my own pants I’m wearing right now. I’m basically a chimp in a suit. Note that those are not Euphonious Polemic’s words; they are from his summation of Don Jr.'s testimony. I’m pretty sure that Don Jr. didn’t say the quoted. But I like what they bring to the paraphrased testimony. Well done, Euphonious Polemic! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/867 "2023-11-01T23:56:28Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > his kids are up to their necks in his business, and if one decides to flip on him, he’s screwed. “Think of the CHILDREN!!!” is his only possible out here. To which the skeptical onlooker replies, “Hey, if you didn’t want your kids involved in your legal hassles, maybe you shouldn’t have built your entire business and Administration organizations around them like a fucking Mafia family?” Leave your own kids alone, you petulant rutabaga, and they’ll all be better off. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/868 "2023-11-02T00:06:07Z")
He sited a Howard stern show where they were asked what is 16x7 or something along those lines and they were not able to come up with an answer. I’m not sure which trumps were at the show, it was during the apprentice days. ---
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/869 "2023-11-02T00:13:05Z")
And as Upton Sinclair did say, " It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/870 "2023-11-02T00:16:19Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > they were asked what is 16x7 or something along those lines It’s 112, innit? (10_7 + 6_7. At least, that’s how I did it.) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/871 "2023-11-02T00:19:47Z")
I believe so. I did 6x7=2, carry the 4, 7x1= 7, plus 4, equals 11, sooooo, 112. Junior is using the Shultz defence, fitting. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/872 "2023-11-02T00:43:35Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > (10_7 + 6_7. At least, that’s how I did it.) Discourse didn’t like the asterisks. Should’ve proofread. ‘10 x 7 + 6 x 7’. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/873 "2023-11-02T00:47:36Z")
Oh thank god for the clarification @Johnny_L.A - I was feeling insanely stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/874 "2023-11-02T01:03:05Z")
I did it as 8\*7 =56, and then doubled. But yeah, lots of ways to do it. 16\*8 - 16 would also have worked. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/875 "2023-11-02T01:27:51Z")
If you’re extra clever, the answer is “eleventy-two”. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/876 "2023-11-02T01:35:35Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I don’t recall the name of the person making the claim Was it, by any chance, “Eric?” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/877 "2023-11-02T01:46:13Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > But I like what they bring to the paraphrased testimony. Well done, Euphonious Polemic! With a name like that, you know it’s good. > [@Kropotkin](#): > > And as Upton Sinclair did say, " It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." That’s who I meant to cite / riff off of; thank you. I should have recognized the original language is from a later brand of English than Twain lived through. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/878 "2023-11-02T01:49:52Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > He sited a Howard stern show where they were asked what is 16x7 or something along those lines and they were not able to come up with an answer. But that’s because Stern didn’t specify whether the answer was for tax purposes or loan collateral purposes. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/879 "2023-11-02T01:51:06Z")
It’s the Heisen-crook uncertainty principal. Do you want it embiggened or ensmallified? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/880 "2023-11-02T03:13:08Z")
I took the long way around: 16 x 10 = 160 [remove 3 16s] 160-32=128-20=108+4=112 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/881 "2023-11-02T03:21:45Z")
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