# NY AG Letitia James drops the (civil) hammer {On Trump & Family} \[9/21/2022\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [September 21, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991 "2022-09-21T16:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1682 "2023-12-19T16:46:52Z")
[reads posted Trump screech] Excuse me, I must go refill my jug of brain bleach and then lie down for a while till the damaged brain cells regenerate. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1683 "2023-12-19T16:54:46Z")
“The statements were perfect, the best they’d ever seen.” “But they weren’t accurate.” “That’s what the disclaimer is for. Nobody should trust them.” “But the banks trusted you.” “They couldn’t wait to make a deal!” “Why couldn’t they wait?” “Because the statements were perfect, the best they’d ever seen.” “But they weren’t accurate.” And so on. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1684 "2023-12-19T18:37:52Z")
He’s crackin’. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1685 "2023-12-19T22:55:04Z")
I think he cracked some time ago. A rant like that just confirms it. Time for the men in the white coats. Of course, those coats will soon be stained with ketchup, but that’s what a laundry is for. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1686 "2023-12-19T23:07:41Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > He’s crackin’. But it doesn’t matter in terms of his electability - which is horrifying. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1687 "2023-12-20T06:45:30Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I think he cracked some time ago. A rant like that just confirms it. Time for the men in the white coats. I read a forum that has a bot that pulls in his “truths” to a dedicated thread. I read them every day. He has been posting that same shit since the beginning of the trial. The exact same shit all day, every day. Over and over and over and over. It’s just cut and paste jobs with new information added as needed and sometimes different degrading adjectives to describe his tormentors. All for the benefit of his fans. He knows very well that the best way to get them to stand behind him is to relentlessly pound his lies into their brains. He hasn’t cracked. It’s part of his plan. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1688 "2023-12-20T08:29:03Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I read a forum that has a bot that pulls in his “truths” to a dedicated thread. I read them every day. He has been posting that same shit since the beginning of the trial. The exact same shit all day, every day. Yeah, this is boilerplate Trump. Everything is rigged, everyone is being unfair to me, greatest tragedy in the history of mankind, and so forth. Or to put it another way; [![](https://i.imgflip.com/89yb6k.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/89yb6k.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1689 "2023-12-20T10:19:53Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I read a forum that has a bot that pulls in his “truths” to a dedicated thread. I read them every day. Why do you do this, out of curiosity? Are you in training for an event? ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1690 "2023-12-20T23:17:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why do you do this, out of curiosity? It’s fascinating to watch how he manipulates his marks. I think he’s the greatest conman in history and I’m interested in how he is pulling that off. So I’m dispassionately studying his methods. It also kind of keeps me at arm’s length from the “holy shit, we are all fucked” horror of it all. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1691 "2023-12-25T05:24:28Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > and then lie down for a while till the damaged brain cells regenerate. I find that it helps to train your mind’s ear to hear these screeds read in Mark Hamill’s Joker voice. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1692 "2023-12-25T23:52:51Z")
Never heard that, so perhaps I could try mentally playing “Yakety Sax” when I read them. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1693 "2023-12-29T21:35:52Z")
Funny story. I work at an urban high school on the south side of Chicago. I’m the tech director. We have a rotating song indicating 1 minute to get to the next class during passing periods. As a joke, I once suggested yakity sax as the song, and lo and behold, a few weeks later I heard it pumping through the halls as the kids were running to their next classes. It was glorious. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1694 "2023-12-29T21:45:55Z")
That had better have been videotaped!!! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1695 "2024-01-05T19:05:06Z")
Letitia is asking for $370 million, citing ‘new evidence’ for fraud: > Link to Meidas Touch article: [https://www.meidastouch.com/news/ag-to-court-trump-should-pay-370-million-and-be-banned-from-ny-real-estate](https://www.meidastouch.com/news/ag-to-court-trump-should-pay-370-million-and-be-banned-from-ny-real-estate) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1696 "2024-01-05T19:21:57Z")
So we’ll get closing arguments in a week. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1697 "2024-01-09T22:21:14Z")
Trump will deliver part of the closing arguments on Thursday. > **[Trump intends to deliver part of closing himself, say sources](https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-fraud-trial/trump-intends-to-deliver-part-of-closing-himself-say-sources-106237800?id=103642561)** > > Get live updates from the trial of former President Trump in a $370 million fraud suit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1698 "2024-01-09T22:23:01Z")
He always says he’ll testify, or he’ll this, or he’ll that. The man is full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1699 "2024-01-09T22:27:41Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Trump will deliver part of the closing arguments on Thursday. Is that even a thing? I’ve never heard of a defendant in any sort of trial doing that. Mind you, my trial knowledge comes mainly from tv courtroom dramas… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1700 "2024-01-09T22:33:10Z")
No, it’s not. In general, Trump’s time to speak is when he’s testifying under oath. I don’t see Judge Engoron permitting him to gasbag away pretending to be a lawyer at the time of closing arguments. Judge Engoron may permit him to make a brief statement, but it would very much be an exception to the usual practice. More likely, Trump is making a play to be allowed to speak, knowing the judge is unlikely to allow it. Then he can go whine to his slavering followers that he’s been “muzzled” and “gagged.” It’s a fundraising ploy, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-ag-letitia-james-drops-the-civil-hammer-on-trump-family-9-21-2022/971991/1701 "2024-01-09T22:44:55Z")
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