# NY Daily News Misogynistic Headline **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2007, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127 "2007-11-12T13:57:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/41 "2007-11-12T18:02:42Z")
Actually, the press made a big deal about her recent tour of talk shows in which she cackled loudly in response to various questions. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/42 "2007-11-12T18:16:10Z")
[QUOTE=Malacandra] Oh, you’ll be lucky. Round here it’s all badger, badger, badger, badger… [/QUOTE] Could always refer to her as a “snaaaaaake!” Getting back to shrew. Nongenderspecific deinitions aside, if use “shrew” to refer to a male, you’re also implying a bitchy feminine side to the insult of combative, etc. Can you honestly say Cheney is a shrew without giggling even a little bit? Because you’re picturing him in a house dress & apron swinging a rolling pin at W. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/43 "2007-11-12T18:22:00Z")
[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya] Because you’re picturing him in a house dress & apron swinging a rolling pin at W. [/QUOTE] That’s just the image I want kicking around in my head all afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/44 "2007-11-12T19:03:45Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] That’s just the image I want kicking around in my head all afternoon. [/QUOTE] As opposed to [this.](http://giulianitime.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/45 "2007-11-12T19:40:53Z")
[QUOTE=erie774] As opposed to [this.](http://giulianitime.com/) [/QUOTE] Beats [this](http://www.blogactive.com/uploaded_images/giuliani_in_drag-752485.jpg), no? ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/46 "2007-11-12T19:41:47Z")
[QUOTE=erie774] As opposed to [this.](http://giulianitime.com/) [/QUOTE] Sorry. The link brings you to the first page. If you go to the gallery you find a picture of Giuliani in drag. [Here](http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/election2008/ig/Election-Funny-Pictures/Trump-and-Giuliani-in-Drag.htm) is a better shot. I wish I could find the picture of him on SNL where he was the old housewife. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/47 "2007-11-12T19:59:06Z")
Good grief! Either he’s got one hell of a sense of humor (in which case my vote as well) or he’s completely unhinged. ---
**Author:** ![sugar\_and\_spice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@sugar\_and\_spice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugar_and_spice)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/48 "2007-11-12T20:12:09Z")
So long as we’re quoting dictionaries, FTR the general definition of the noun shrew is, in fact, gender specific: [Merriam Webster](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/shrew): > [@](#): > > 2 : an ill-tempered scolding woman [Encarta](http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/shrew.html) > [@](#): > > 1. offensive term: an offensive term for a woman who is regarded as quarrelsome, nagging, or ill-tempered Just sayin’ ---
**Author:** ![Slypork](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Slypork](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slypork)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/49 "2007-11-12T20:26:07Z")
[QUOTE=sugar and spice] So long as we’re quoting dictionaries, FTR the general definition of the noun shrew is, in fact, gender specific: [Merriam Webster](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/shrew): [Encarta](http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/shrew.html) Just sayin’ [/QUOTE] Funny. She doesn’t look shrewish. That’s OK, though. Some of my best friends are shrewish. (Where’s the smiley with a yarmulke?) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/50 "2007-11-12T21:13:38Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] ETA I find the ‘vulnerable’ as odd as the ‘bruises’ bit in the headline. Not scientific, but Hillary+ vulnerable comes up with way more than that word paired with anyone else in the running. Despite what the polls may say. [/QUOTE] Well, this is logical, given that she is (and has been for some time) the leading candidate. Even though whoever is second in the polls may, strictly speaking, be vulnerable to dropping to third, nobody is going to mention it. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/51 "2007-11-12T22:30:13Z")
[QUOTE=erie774] As you can see, none of the definitions say that it is gender specific so I am correct in describing her as shrewish. [/QUOTE] Feeling, as I do, uniquely qualified to badger you, I’m going to have to say that you’re totally and utterly full of shit here; “shrew” is clearly and historically an epithet levelled exclusively at women. To claim otherwise via an omission on the part of two sources you happen to find is pure sophistry. [ul][li]As Princeton’s Wordnet has it: “a scolding nagging bad-tempered woman”[/li][li]Random House: “a woman of violent temper and speech; termagant.”[/li][li]American Heritage Dictionary: “A woman with a violent, scolding, or nagging temperament; a scold.”[/li][li]Kernerman: “an old word for an unpleasant woman with a violent temper and sharp tongue”[/ul][/li]If you can find even one significant usage of “shrew” to refer to a man, I’ll buy you a beer. No, make it a white wine spritzer. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/52 "2007-11-13T04:16:32Z")
Funny, she doesn’t _look_ shrewish. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127/53 "2007-11-13T10:04:11Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Funny, she doesn’t _look_ shrewish. [/QUOTE] [_points_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9168902&postcount=49) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-misogynistic-headline/426127.md?page=2)