# NY Daily News: Peyton Manning College Sex Assault and Smear Campaign **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024 "2016-02-13T15:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/21 "2016-02-15T17:24:09Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Well yeah, the Daily News pundit is pushing this story as a counter to his perception that the media/public have been mean to a black quarterback (Cam Newton) while glorifying a white quarterback (Manning) out of racist motivations. Anyone who has that perception was apparently in hibernation during the Brady/deflategate nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/22 "2016-02-15T17:36:39Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Maybe you’re right. After all, Johnny Manziel has largely escaped scrutiny because he’s white. I guess it’s nice you made it abudantly clear you didn’t actual read what I wrote. Newton is being smeared for being mean to reporters and dancing too much. Some on the fringe have criticized him for having a child out of wedlock and being a bad role model. Manziel is accused of far worse things including beating his GF on multiple occasions. Not the same thing at all. Further, if you’d actually read what I said, you’d see that I did not say Newton was getting critiqued solely because he is Black, but rather that it was an aggravating circumstance. His race explains some of the difference in magnitude between the critiques of Aaron Rogers’ dancing and “arrogance” and Newton’s dancing and “arrogance”. It explains why Newton having a child out of wedlock is an issue for some people, yet Brady doing the same thing seemingly isn’t. It explains why Belichick being mean to reporters is funny, but Cam doing it is unprofessional. Again, you don’t necessity get a pass for any of those things because you are White, but you will be far less likely to get one if you are Black, and that difference is what has largely fueled this hysteria over Cam Newton’s behavior. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > Uh-huh, [no one](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/28/sports/football/claims-of-peyton-manning-doping-raise-nagging-questions.html?_r=0) [mentioned it](http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/report-peyton-manning-nfl-mlb-athletes-received-hgh/story?id=35961330) [at all](http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14441114/documentary-links-peyton-manning-other-pro-athletes-use-peds). In fact, [I can’t ever recall](http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4366683) hearing about stories in the MSM about white athletes linked to PEDs. Compare the reaction to Alex Rodriguez or Barry Bonds taking drugs to Manning. Manning’s use wasn’t completely ignored (and I never said it was) but the difference in treatment is stark. Jim Nance never said their use was a “non-story” on national TV as he did with Manning. Nobody just takes an accused cheater’s word as people seem to have with Manning. If Brady had been accused of that, it would be a year long story with multiple investigative reporters trying to get to the bottom of it. Especially when it becomes clear that Manning almost certainly had access to the HGH given it was delivered to his house, and that he hired people who essentially sent goons to the accuser’s house. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > Instead of insisting on viewing treatment of these athletes through a racial prism It’s not my insistence, it’s the reality of the situation in many circumstances. Ignoring it is willful blindness. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > you might also consider that Manning has (to some extent) been placed on a pedestal because of his sports achievements over many years, and Newton is a relative newcomer. It’s not a comparison between the two. The issue, as I stated literally in the first paragraph of the comment you quoted, is why Manning specifically and uniquely gets a pass when no one else seems to. Accomplishments haven’t prevented Brady from being savaged by the media, and he arguably has more of them than Manning. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/23 "2016-02-15T18:44:13Z")
[Cracked.com](http://www.cracked.com/video_19854_3-terrible-peyton-manning-scandals-no-one-talks-about.html): [3 Terrible Peyton Manning Scandals No One Talks About](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYO-afZw4JI) First link is to [Cracked.com](http://Cracked.com) with embedded video, second link is direct to their YouTube video. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/24 "2016-02-15T20:18:11Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Compare the reaction to Alex Rodriguez or Barry Bonds taking drugs to Manning. Manning’s use wasn’t completely ignored (and I never said it was) but the difference in treatment is stark. Jim Nance never said their use was a “non-story” on national TV as he did with Manning. Nobody just takes an accused cheater’s word as people seem to have with Manning. If Brady had been accused of that, it would be a year long story with multiple investigative reporters trying to get to the bottom of it. Especially when it becomes clear that Manning almost certainly had access to the HGH given it was delivered to his house, and that he hired people who essentially sent goons to the accuser’s house. I’m not sure that (if Brady had been accused) is true. There’s a vast difference in how the media and general fandom treat PED accusations in baseball than to football players. The merest hint that a baseball player used something has people crawling out of the woodwork to call for their immediate banishment from the sport entirely. Football players get a near “boys will be boys” treatment. For instance, look at Ryan Braun and Von Miller. Bring Braun’s name up in a baseball thread, and there’ll be plenty of people calling for him to return his MVP award, be kicked out of the game, etc. Von Miller is heralded as Super Bowl MVP. They were both accused of the exact same thing. And for the purposes of this thread, it should be pointed out that Braun is white and Miller is black. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/25 "2016-02-15T21:02:16Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Although I am sure more facts will come out, the bulletpoints are as follows: > > 1. Manning, at age 19, allegedly sticks his naked butt and rectum in the face of a female trainer while she is examining him > 2. She reports this immediately. > 3. Manning says it was an accident, and that he slipped while mooning a teammate. > 4. Teammate initially supports him, then later denies this and writes letter to Peyton to fess up. > 5. Teammate loses his scholarship. He alleges it’s due to him not backing Manning’s account. > 6. University settles with trainer and she agrees to leave. They sign a confidentially agreement, and she gets a monetary settlement. > 7. Manning receives minimal punishment. > 8. Years later, Manning breaks confidentially agreement in a book he wrote that smears the trainer. Archie Manning, Peyton’s father, is alleged to have also attempted to smear the trainer by saying, “she had been with a lot of Black guys”, among other things. > 9. She sued again and settles based on Manning’s public comments in violation of the prior agreement. Another agreement is signed. > 10. Recently, a lawsuit naming the UofT cites the incident as an example of the hostile work environment there. Ok tx. I can see this getting interpreted in a lot of different ways. ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/26 "2016-02-15T21:56:04Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Those are court documents he is quoting. The messenger doesnt matter here. > [@Laggard](#): > > Yeah, the messenger doesn’t really matter here. These are court documents and the horrible incident is well documented. No one made this shit up. Just to note, those “court documents” aren’t any findings of fact from a court, they’re just allegations from the plaintiff: > [@](#): > > Titled “Facts of the Case,” and submitted to the court by the plaintiff’s lawyers ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/27 "2016-02-15T22:14:20Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > Amazing how lily white America gets up in arms when one of their own vanilla role models is attacked and exposed as a fraud in the media. > > The fact is, Peyton Manning/UT paid out $300,000 to the woman trainer he teabagged . . . . ALLEGEDLY. Don’t give me “he was 20” You know damn well if you or I did that at 20, wed be registered sex offenders. And, in most cases, you don’t “settle” out of court without there being smoke and a fire. > > The fact is, he uses his “squeaky clean” image to earn millions and millions in endorsements; Cam Newton, an “uppity” black man, despite being 10X the athlete Peyton is can’t seem to get dime one in endorsements, because in white American eyes, he wont play Uncle Tom. > > Leave it to a white racist right wing website like Breit Bart to attack Shaun King, and even sink as low as to make his own racial identity an issue. Apparently, you are not allowed to attack a white athlete if you are black. This country disgusts me. I see the ridiculous statement about Cam Newton not getting endorsements has already been addressed, so I won’t pile on that one. However, I will point out that Shaun King has a reputation as a bad journalist that traces back long before this hit piece. When Jason Whitlock says you’re a “race hustler,” there might be something to it. [http://www.nationalledger.com/pop-culture-news/jason-whitlock-rips-on-shaun-king-511509.shtml#.VsJNOLl0y00](http://www.nationalledger.com/pop-culture-news/jason-whitlock-rips-on-shaun-king-511509.shtml#.VsJNOLl0y00) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/28 "2016-02-18T16:15:18Z")
Looks like the accuser is a bit on the crazy side. [College Football News, Scores, Standings & Stats | FOX Sports](http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/tennessee-associate-ad-contacted-fbi-about-manning-accuser-harassment-021716) ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/29 "2016-02-18T16:40:41Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Looks like the accuser is a bit on the crazy side. [College Football News, Scores, Standings & Stats | FOX Sports](http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/tennessee-associate-ad-contacted-fbi-about-manning-accuser-harassment-021716) Or Mannings friends are trying to smear her with unsubstantiated allegations. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024/30 "2016-02-18T16:57:14Z")
Look at the crazy Facebook posts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-daily-news-peyton-manning-college-sex-assault-and-smear-campaign/746024.md?page=1)