# NY Teacher beat up by First Grader

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**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561 "2012-10-03T07:56:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/1 "2012-10-03T07:56:47Z")

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I’m not sure why the press is snickering at this. The little shit got the guy in the knee and ankle multiple times. If you’ve seen a six year old throw a fit then you know how unhinged they can be.

I’m assuming this guys injuries are backed up by medical reports. A broken ankle and meniscus tear is no joke.

Sure, he’s a big guy. If he touched one hair on that brat’s head he’d be in prison. How can you defend yourself? Schools these days are terrified of lawsuits. They call the cops to deal with unruly kids because its too risky to discipline them.

> **[NY Teacher Claims First-Grader Beat Him Up](https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/10/ny-teacher-claims-first-grader-beat-him-up/)**
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> He told the New York Post that, last April, when Carpio was a first-grade student, the boy acted out while walking to the cafeteria for lunch with his classmates.
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> When Webster, who could not be reached for comment today by ABC News, tried to discipline him by taking him to the principal’s office, Carpio allegedly kicked his teacher in the knee and ankle, causing serious damage, according to his lawyer.
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> “This young boy repeatedly attempted to hit Mr. Webster 20 times and landed two serious kicks, one to his right knee and one to his right ankle,” Siben said. “With the kick to the knee, he sustained a meniscus tear that required surgery and, with the kick to the ankle, an avulsion fracture which might also necessitate surgery.”

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/2 "2012-10-03T08:30:35Z")

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Some more delinquents that our schools have to deal with. 2nd grade. :eek:

What the heck is going on with our kids? My 2nd grade classmates got in trouble for pushing another kid in the hall or spitballs. Not orally raping other kids in the bathroom.

[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012210020324&nclick&nclick\_check=1](http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012210020324&nclick&nclick_check=1)

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> John and Jane Doe “received a horrifying phone call” from the parent of another Burris student informing them of their own son’s victimization on Dec. 5, 2011. However, the parents did not discover “the full extent of the sexual abuse” for several days because “teachers and administrators at Burris failed to inform the Does of the nature of the abuse, even though Burris had knowledge of the horrific events.”
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> The Does eventually discovered their son had been “forced to give and receive oral sex and engage in inappropriate touching with other second-grade boys” in Burris’ bathrooms, library and classroom “during school hours,” with the abuse involving at least 11 incidents over a three-month period.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/3 "2012-10-03T12:01:53Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> **NY Teacher beat up by First Grader**

This headline would be easier to understand if it read:

**Teacher beat[en] up by New York First Grader**

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/4 "2012-10-03T19:35:51Z")

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😕 OK, if you say so.

Seems obvious that a NY Teacher’s student would also be from NY.

I posted only because the press had been making fun of the teacher. “How could such a big guy let a kid do that?”, They ask.

They forget that adults can’t fight back against kids. We’re automatically the bad guy and get charged.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/5 "2012-10-03T21:48:01Z")

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Don’t they train teachers in how to handle stuff like what to do if a six year old starts a fist fight with you?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/6 "2012-10-03T22:06:33Z")

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> [@kevja](#):
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> Don’t they train teachers in how to handle stuff like what to do if a six year old starts a fist fight with you?

Yes. They teach them “Don’t get sued.”

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/7 "2012-10-03T22:09:52Z")

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Turn a water hose on them? 😃

Kids with ADHD, or other issues can get pretty violent when they freak out. I’m not sure how teachers are trained to deal with them. Obviously no one wants the child hurt, but its important that the kid doesn’t hurt someone else either.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/8 "2012-10-03T22:12:29Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> What the heck is going on with our kids? My 2nd grade classmates got in trouble for pushing another kid in the hall or spitballs. Not orally raping other kids in the bathroom.

Who knows what was going on in the days (which are not as far away as we may think) when it wasn’t “proper” to talk about (or even hint at) these things…

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/9 "2012-10-03T22:22:24Z")

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The kid should grow up. It was fourth grade before I bit a teacher.

And she totally deserved it.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-teacher-beat-up-by-first-grader/636561/10 "2012-10-03T22:30:08Z")

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I chuckled at the thread title.

> [@kevja](#):
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> Don’t they train teachers in how to handle stuff like what to do if a six year old starts a fist fight with you?

Not really. That kind of training isn’t necessary for mainstream teachers. Crisis-management techniques are often used by special ed teachers, certainly. But small neurotypical kids don’t generally start physical altercations with teachers. This kid may end up receiving an IEP or being transferred to an alternative school. Who knows, perhaps he’s on the autism spectrum or has a personality disorder.
