# NY Times raves over new Adam Sandler vehicle (". . . Zohan") **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964 "2008-06-06T02:15:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/41 "2008-06-11T15:06:28Z")
[QUOTE=JThunder] Gimme a break, friend. You’re the one who said, “Sandler has made us all laugh before…” [/QUOTE] Exaggera-_shawwwnnn_ -Cajun Man ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/42 "2008-06-11T15:22:44Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] they went the easy route by making the commando-turned-foppish-hairdresser an Israeli. i think it would have been funnier if they made him a member of the Taliban or Iran’s secret police or something, but oh yeah then they would have had hundreds of death threats. So they went with the Israeli. The easy way. lame. [/QUOTE] I…wha? Why would it have been funnier to make him a member of the Taliban? A healthy portion of the humor is the **fact** that’s he’s an Israeli commando and the Phantom is a terrorist hero…on par with John McEnroe. And Emmanuelle Chriqui is **insanely** hot, so…victory: Zohan. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/43 "2008-06-11T15:23:42Z")
[QUOTE=Bosstone] Bottom line, though; if you can handle seeing Sandler’s bare ass and laugh at gigantic package jokes, it’ll be hilarious, go see it. If you can’t, well, you probably knew you wouldn’t like it when you heard it’s a Sandler movie anyway. 😛 [/QUOTE] The prospect of naked Sandler ass is enough to push this from “Very likely won’t see” right into “Wouldn’t watch if the theater paid me” territory. Thanks for the review. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/44 "2008-06-11T15:36:31Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] The prospect of naked Sandler ass is enough to push this from “Very likely won’t see” right into “Wouldn’t watch if the theater paid me” territory. Thanks for the review. [/QUOTE] It’s only a couple of shots. But yeah, there’s a lot of vulgar humor revolving around Sandler’s, um, hip region. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/45 "2008-06-11T16:13:32Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] The theatrical trailer is really funny, I’m talking Wedding Singer funny. [/QUOTE] It gave me the vibe of “we scoured this turkey for every single kinda sorta humorous moment, and this is the best we could come up with”. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/46 "2008-06-11T16:28:55Z")
[QUOTE=Steve MB] It gave me the vibe of “we scoured this turkey for every single kinda sorta humorous moment, and this is the best we could come up with”. [/QUOTE] Ohhh, no, definitely not. If you find the trailer funny, there’s a lot more in the movie just as good. You don’t even _see_ John Turturro in the trailer. I know I’m posting a lot about a juvenile Sandler movie, but I’m interested in getting across that you shouldn’t sell it short. It’s a goofy, absurd comedy, but it’s a good goofy, absurd comedy. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/47 "2008-06-11T16:48:17Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] they went the easy route by making the commando-turned-foppish-hairdresser an Israeli. i think it would have been funnier if they made him a member of the Taliban or Iran’s secret police or something, but oh yeah then they would have had hundreds of death threats. So they went with the Israeli. The easy way. lame. [/QUOTE] I think it’s better for him to be an Israeli, personally. Otherwise, it’d be a retread of [American Dreamz](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465142/), wherein one of the contestants on the movie’s pseudo-American Idol show is actually a sleeper terrorist agent. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/48 "2008-06-11T16:56:35Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] they went the easy route by making the commando-turned-foppish-hairdresser an Israeli. i think it would have been funnier if they made him a member of the Taliban or Iran’s secret police or something, but oh yeah then they would have had hundreds of death threats. So they went with the Israeli. The easy way. lame. [/QUOTE] **That** is the easy way? Seems like the easy way would be to have him be British or something… sometihng which is NOT either half of the most controversial and politically explosive region in the world. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/49 "2008-06-11T17:02:35Z")
[QUOTE=Alessan] the film suffers from a severe case of Rob Schnieder. [/QUOTE] Schnieder wasn’t that bad, actually, in that Sandler movie, _50 First Dates_. Almost…understated. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/50 "2008-06-11T17:15:13Z")
[QUOTE=MrDibble] Schnieder wasn’t that bad, actually, in that Sandler movie, _50 First Dates_. Almost…understated. [/QUOTE] That was easily his best performance in any Adam Sandler movie. He made me laugh out loud on more than one occasion. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/51 "2008-06-11T17:35:02Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Yeah, yeah. No one’s fucking funny around here. Ferrell’s not funny. Sandler’s not funny. Martin Lawrence isn’t funny. Cedric isn’t funny. Kevin James isn’t funny. Dane Cook isn’t funny. Oh, yeah, Hugh Laurie was funny on **Blackadder**. How could I have forgotten? Sandler’s Opera Man? That trick-or-treat thing he used to do? When he first bust-out with that thanksgiving song? No one’s ever laughed at him. Do people think the channukah song gets played 8 million times per year because it’s not funny? He gets props for **Wedding Singer** commonly, but before his thing started to get a little tired (with Waterboy, Big Daddy, and a couple more), nearly everyone thought Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison were pretty funny. Give them a couple more movies, and Seth Rogan and Steve Carrell not only won’t be funny anymore. Their current level of funniness will have never existed in some people’s minds. [/QUOTE] You realize _argumentum ad populum_ is a fallacy, right? Or do you believe **Mariah Carey** is the best musical artist in the world? I don’t find anyone or any skit/movie you listed funny (never seen **Blackadder** ) in the least. Guess I must be lying in an attempt to appear hip. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/52 "2008-06-11T17:43:45Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] You realize _argumentum ad populum_ is a fallacy, right? [/QUOTE] Depends on what you’re trying to prove. If you’re arguing that someone is funny, and you define funny as “makes people laugh,” then an _argumentum ad populum_ is an entirely appropriate argument to use. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/53 "2008-06-11T17:57:44Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] Depends on what you’re trying to prove. If you’re arguing that someone is funny, and you define funny as “makes people laugh,” then an _argumentum ad populum_ is an entirely appropriate argument to use. [/QUOTE] Perhaps, but what I’m getting from **Trunk** ’s post is that these people are _objectively_ funny and we’re just being snobbish by saying we don’t find them amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/54 "2008-06-11T18:03:18Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Perhaps, but what I’m getting from **Trunk** ’s post is that these people are _objectively_ funny and we’re just being snobbish by saying we don’t find them amusing. [/QUOTE] It seemed to me that he was saying that it was a bit ridiculous to claim that Adam Sandler “isn’t funny” when a ton of people find him to be. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/55 "2008-06-11T18:05:46Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Perhaps, but what I’m getting from **Trunk** ’s post is that these people are _objectively_ funny and we’re just being snobbish by saying we don’t find them amusing. [/QUOTE] Now I’m tempted to start a Great Debates thread asking whether or not there’s such a thing as “objectively funny.” ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/56 "2008-06-11T18:11:05Z")
[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver] It seemed to me that he was saying that it was a bit ridiculous to claim that Adam Sandler “isn’t funny” when a ton of people find him to be. [/QUOTE] Well, the way I was reading others’ responses was “_I_ don’t find him funny and wouldn’t pay to see anything he’s involved in” - when discussing humor or aesthetics, I just assume saying “that shit’s not funny” or “that painting sucks” _implies_ “in my opinion”; I certainly don’t know anybody who claims their opinion on such matters is Absolute Truth. People can argue with well-thought-out reasons for their side, but I think most of us go into such discussions with the understanding that it’s all subjective. Maybe I’m naive. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/57 "2008-06-11T18:17:07Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Well, the way I was reading others’ responses was “_I_ don’t find him funny and wouldn’t pay to see anything he’s involved in” - when discussing humor or aesthetics, I just assume saying “that shit’s not funny” or “that painting sucks” _implies_ “in my opinion”; I certainly don’t know anybody who claims their opinion on such matters is Absolute Truth. People can argue with well-thought-out reasons for their side, but I think most of us go into such discussions with the understanding that it’s all subjective. Maybe I’m naive. [/QUOTE] Of course it’s understood. It’s just annoying to have to wade through threads full of posters who act as though the idea of attending an Adam Sandler movie is absolutely absurd, especially when we all know that millions upon millions of people will watch & enjoy it. We’re all just crazy for even insinuating such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/58 "2008-06-11T18:21:17Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Perhaps, but what I’m getting from **Trunk** ’s post is that these people are _objectively_ funny and we’re just being snobbish by saying we don’t find them amusing. [/QUOTE] I didn’t get that from that post at all. I just thought it was a gasp of frustration over the fact that “Adam Sandler is not funny” is one of those tired SDMB groupthoughts. Most threads involving Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell and a few other comedians will mostly be populated by posters talking about how unfunny the thread subject is. It gets tiring if you’re a fan of Sandler or Ferrell or any of the others. On edit, what **Labrador Deceiver** said too. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/59 "2008-06-11T18:24:51Z")
[QUOTE=Justin\_Bailey] Most threads involving Adam Sandler, Will Ferrell and a few other comedians will mostly be populated by posters talking about how unfunny the thread subject is. It gets tiring if you’re a fan of Sandler or Ferrell or any of the others. [/QUOTE] …Ow. You just reminded me of one of the trailers preceding Zohan, a Ferrell flick that looks even more unfunny than Myer’s latest. Two adult men become stepbrothers and have to share a bedroom and otherwise act like immature teenagers. I suppose there could be an Anchorman-like humor to it, but it just looked like it would be painful to watch. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964/60 "2008-06-11T19:07:20Z")
[QUOTE=Labrador Deceiver] It seemed to me that he was saying that it was a bit ridiculous to claim that Adam Sandler “isn’t funny” when a ton of people find him to be. [/QUOTE] Whereas his claim that Adam Sandler has made all of us laugh, and that he’ll continue to do so, is not the least bit ridiculous, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-raves-over-new-adam-sandler-vehicle-zohan/451964.md?page=4)