# NY Times supports Trump! isn't this a little bit ,umm, ..hypocritical? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 20, 2020, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074 "2020-09-20T12:19:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/21 "2020-09-21T18:17:40Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Regarding: > > > [@](#): > > > > Election officials reject almost 2 percent of ballots cast by mail, double the rate for in-person voting. > > This is true but in 2020 there is a larger context. > > If you had a cold in past years, that was no barrier to going to the polls. This year it is. And I’m fairly sure there is more than a 1 percent chance of having a cold on any given day. So vote by mail is the most effective way to cast my vote, even if it has that higher reject rate. Just for comparison, the rejected rates in Oregon, Washington, and Colorado, which are all-vote-by-mail states, is under 1%. Signature issues that are identified early enough can be corrected so the ballot can be counted. And Oregon has been identified as the easiest state to vote in. [Cite.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/katu.com/amp/news/local/oregon-doesnt-track-ballot-collection-by-third-party-groups) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/22 "2020-09-21T19:11:31Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Indeed. 🙂 And might I take this opportunity to once again state something that is relevant to the OP. One opinion by one writer is just that. Newspapers regularly take opposing stances. It’s not hypocrisy necessarily. Quiet, you. The OP will lose his grip on that straw he’s grasping. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/23 "2020-09-21T19:37:44Z")
Even if there were some problems with mail-in voting, it’s certainly possible that the NY Times changed its tune because of the pandemic. For example, I wouldn’t normally run across a shooting range, between the shooters and the targets. However, if a bear was chasing me and that was the only way to go, I’d probably do that. Given the massive issues with voting during a pandemic (and the inevitable resurgence of COVID) and the tricks that red state governments are doing (removing early voting, removing voting locations and machines), mail-in votes might be the lesser of evils. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/24 "2020-09-21T19:44:11Z")
Eh, I don’t know that **chappachula** is grasping at straws, really. A question is asked in the OP, and it seems innocent enough. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/25 "2020-09-21T20:07:54Z")
Tagging an eight-year old OpEd article as hypocritical struck me that way. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/26 "2020-09-21T20:17:08Z")
Sure. Chap seems to have fallen silent on the issue, so who knows? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074/27 "2020-09-21T20:22:36Z")
Gee, did something happen? What could cause anyone to change their opinion on mail-in voting? Is this thread meant as a joke? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ny-times-supports-trump-isnt-this-a-little-bit-umm-hypocritical/921074.md?page=1)